1 00:00:24,83 --> 00:00:30,32 Right welcome everyone we are coming out of closed session from our special city 2 00:00:30,33 --> 00:00:32,65 council meeting which started at five P.M. 3 00:00:32,65 --> 00:00:38,73 . We had one item conference with the labor negotiators per Government Code Section 4 00:00:38,74 --> 00:00:42,84 five four nine five seven point six two items arcade 5 00:00:42,85 --> 00:00:46,80 a Police Association and management mid management confidential employees 6 00:00:47,10 --> 00:00:52,45 negotiators Randy Mendoza Internet de Mello and we have nothing to report out of 7 00:00:52,46 --> 00:00:57,88 closed session so we will now adjourn the special city council meeting and convene 8 00:00:57,89 --> 00:01:02,95 our regular city council meeting will be starting with the flag salute which will 9 00:01:02,96 --> 00:01:09,17 be led by the Girl Scout junior troop one zero six two three 10 00:01:09,96 --> 00:01:15,06 we have some Girl Scouts here. Please come forward. 11 00:01:30,90 --> 00:01:33,62 Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 12 00:01:39,26 --> 00:01:45,88 Of the United States of America. Just stands one nation under 13 00:01:45,89 --> 00:01:49,30 God. Justice for. 14 00:01:54,54 --> 00:01:55,90 Thank you let's give them 15 00:01:55,91 --> 00:02:02,56 a round of applause thank. You. 16 00:02:04,95 --> 00:02:07,08 That brings us to Rob Call me we please have 17 00:02:07,09 --> 00:02:13,23 a roll call us Mayor Brinton president vice mayor Wheatley here council member 18 00:02:13,24 --> 00:02:19,54 Stillman council member Winkler here council member no us here our President 19 00:02:20,85 --> 00:02:26,61 thank you. We are now on ceremonial matters item 20 00:02:26,62 --> 00:02:31,19 a proclamation in recognition of Girl Scout week March tenth through the sixteenth 21 00:02:31,20 --> 00:02:34,94 two thousand and thirteen and that will be read by council member Alex Stillman. 22 00:02:38,54 --> 00:02:38,68 As 23 00:02:38,69 --> 00:02:43,59 a former Girl Scout I look forward to doing this in recognition of Girl Scout week 24 00:02:43,60 --> 00:02:48,15 March tenth two The sixteenth two thousand and thirteen whereas on March twelfth 25 00:02:48,16 --> 00:02:54,56 one thousand twelve the first girl scout meeting was held in Savannah Ga Ga led by 26 00:02:54,57 --> 00:02:59,25 Juliette Gordon Low and whereas throughout its long and distinguished history Girl 27 00:02:59,26 --> 00:03:04,24 Scouting has inspired millions of girls and women with the highest ideals of corps 28 00:03:04,29 --> 00:03:10,05 courage confidence in character and Girl Scout increases girls' awareness of 29 00:03:10,06 --> 00:03:15,84 opportunities available to them today in math science sports technology and other 30 00:03:15,85 --> 00:03:22,19 fields that can expand their horizons. And where as through Girl Scout troop Girl 31 00:03:22,20 --> 00:03:27,08 Scouting girls grow strong gain self-confidence and leadership skills and learn the 32 00:03:27,09 --> 00:03:31,39 lifelong lessons of contributing to their communities and whereas there are more 33 00:03:31,40 --> 00:03:36,40 than three point eight million Girl Scouts nationwide who look to fifty million 34 00:03:36,41 --> 00:03:40,28 women who are former Girl Scouts as living proof of the impact of this amazing 35 00:03:40,29 --> 00:03:44,69 movement now therefore be proclaimed at the city council of the city of Arcadia 36 00:03:44,70 --> 00:03:49,74 here by designates the week of March tenth two sixteenth two thousand and thirteen 37 00:03:49,75 --> 00:03:53,52 as Girl Scout week and applauds Girl Scouting commitment to developing 38 00:03:53,53 --> 00:03:58,95 a leadership skills of America's girls dated March twenty ninth two thousand and 39 00:03:58,96 --> 00:04:03,01 twelve I was going to say nine hundred twelve. Would have been 40 00:04:03,02 --> 00:04:07,56 a long time ago twenty thirteen signed by mere Britain and it's going to be 41 00:04:07,57 --> 00:04:09,16 accepted by Janine. 42 00:04:15,57 --> 00:04:17,94 Thank. 43 00:04:33,99 --> 00:04:38,68 I would just like to think the city of Arcadia on behalf of the Girl Scouts for 44 00:04:38,69 --> 00:04:43,60 this proclamation and also ending the cookie season and for everyone that supported 45 00:04:43,61 --> 00:04:46,22 our troops in buying the share so I think you. 46 00:04:53,13 --> 00:04:54,62 I think all those cookies we had 47 00:04:54,63 --> 00:04:57,76 a good time eating them and we just wonder we better be watching how long 48 00:04:57,82 --> 00:05:02,57 a few of those made their way to City Hall and yeah I had some thin mints out it 49 00:05:02,58 --> 00:05:08,65 are to live in very good thank you so that brings us to ceremonial matters 50 00:05:09,29 --> 00:05:13,15 proclamation designating March twenty fourth through the thirtieth two thousand and 51 00:05:13,16 --> 00:05:17,38 thirteen tsunami awareness week and that will be read by council member Michael 52 00:05:17,39 --> 00:05:23,23 Winkler whereas the city of Arcadia recognizes the potential threat of tsunami 53 00:05:23,24 --> 00:05:29,08 events to coastal communities and where as historically these have adversely and 54 00:05:29,10 --> 00:05:34,76 sometimes tragically affected California's north coast and whereas it is most 55 00:05:34,92 --> 00:05:40,02 important that the citizens of Arcadia be informed of the proper action to take 56 00:05:40,03 --> 00:05:44,81 during that tsunami event and whereas the state of California the National Weather 57 00:05:44,82 --> 00:05:48,54 Service and the county of humbled commemorate the anniversary of the one thousand 58 00:05:48,55 --> 00:05:52,75 nine hundred sixty four Alaska tsunami by testing their ability to issue its 59 00:05:52,76 --> 00:05:57,44 tsunami warning. Now therefore be it proclaimed that the city council of the city 60 00:05:57,45 --> 00:06:02,20 of Arcadia hereby recognizes that we could March twenty fourth the thirtieth twenty 61 00:06:02,21 --> 00:06:07,60 thirteen should be prepared this week and encourages its just and to participate in 62 00:06:07,61 --> 00:06:12,09 local Toonami awareness and education programs dated March twentieth two thousand 63 00:06:12,10 --> 00:06:17,22 and thirteen inside buy or mirror printed. And this will be accepted by our city 64 00:06:17,23 --> 00:06:19,08 manager Randy Mendo said that he and. 65 00:06:26,89 --> 00:06:27,36 Could I say 66 00:06:27,37 --> 00:06:34,05 a few words yes sir Dan. Larkin our. 67 00:06:35,15 --> 00:06:39,54 Director asked if we could if I could mention to the council that there's 68 00:06:39,59 --> 00:06:44,75 a tsunami warning communications test on Wednesday March twenty seventh between 69 00:06:44,76 --> 00:06:45,46 eleven A.M. 70 00:06:45,47 --> 00:06:50,76 And noon and it's in the Del Norte humble Mendocino counties and there will be 71 00:06:50,77 --> 00:06:55,07 interruptions of television broadcast radio stations and the activate the no 72 00:06:55,08 --> 00:07:01,71 weather radios and also the outdoor sirens so in some areas you may hear the 73 00:07:01,72 --> 00:07:06,86 sound of the tsunami siren or you may hear an airplane testing its public relations 74 00:07:07,28 --> 00:07:13,30 public address system in some of the communities now we know that our kaita has is 75 00:07:13,31 --> 00:07:13,89 going to be having 76 00:07:13,90 --> 00:07:19,90 a tsunami siren that will be activated not in time for this but we will have 77 00:07:19,91 --> 00:07:26,18 a tsunami siren that will be available to warn people in the northern Humboldt Bay 78 00:07:26,22 --> 00:07:27,40 and south G. 79 00:07:27,46 --> 00:07:31,85 For instance you know people using the marsh areas you know we don't want to have 80 00:07:31,86 --> 00:07:36,01 the tsunami siren go to the areas that are not in the tsunami inundation zones so 81 00:07:36,45 --> 00:07:36,89 their kid 82 00:07:36,90 --> 00:07:43,66 a siren will be in place for people that are in the inundation area. So anyway this 83 00:07:43,67 --> 00:07:43,76 is 84 00:07:43,77 --> 00:07:49,25 a test and we want to encourage everybody to stop in and take notice of this when it 85 00:07:49,29 --> 00:07:55,19 occurs on March twenty seventh between eleventh and eleven and twelve. Thank you. 86 00:07:56,68 --> 00:07:57,40 Next we have 87 00:07:57,41 --> 00:08:02,38 a proclamation and recognition of Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day March thirtieth 88 00:08:02,42 --> 00:08:06,62 two thousand and thirteen and that will be read by Vice Mayor Mark we really are. 89 00:08:07,37 --> 00:08:11,87 Proclamation in recognition of Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day March thirtieth 90 00:08:11,88 --> 00:08:16,28 two thousand and thirteen whereas the United States participated in the Vietnam War 91 00:08:16,29 --> 00:08:19,17 from about one thousand nine hundred sixty one when U.S. 92 00:08:19,18 --> 00:08:23,84 Armed Forces advisors arrived in Southeast Asia to help the South Vietnamese 93 00:08:24,19 --> 00:08:27,84 through March thirtieth one thousand nine hundred three when our combat troops 94 00:08:27,85 --> 00:08:32,97 withdrew from Vietnam until the capture of Saigon by the North Vietnamese Army in 95 00:08:32,98 --> 00:08:37,27 one thousand nine hundred five. And whereas at the peak of the United States' 96 00:08:37,28 --> 00:08:41,26 involvement in the war in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine proximately five 97 00:08:41,27 --> 00:08:46,70 hundred forty three thousand American troops were serving in Vietnam and whereas 98 00:08:46,71 --> 00:08:51,67 more than fifty eight thousand United States troops lost their lives in Vietnam and 99 00:08:51,68 --> 00:08:53,52 more than three hundred thousand U.S. 100 00:08:53,53 --> 00:08:58,83 Armed force members were wounded three to four million Vietnamese from both the 101 00:08:58,84 --> 00:09:02,94 south and the north as well as one point five to two million Laotians and 102 00:09:02,95 --> 00:09:08,25 Cambodians also died in the war. And whereas the Vietnam War was an extremely 103 00:09:08,26 --> 00:09:13,38 divisive issue among the people of the United States upon their return home members 104 00:09:13,39 --> 00:09:17,28 of the United States armed forces who bravely served our country were caught in the 105 00:09:17,29 --> 00:09:22,60 crossfire of public debate about our country's involvement in the war and whereas 106 00:09:22,64 --> 00:09:25,37 it was not until one nine hundred eighty two almost 107 00:09:25,41 --> 00:09:27,61 a decade after the wars in that 108 00:09:27,62 --> 00:09:31,52 a memorial in our nation's capital was dedicated to those members of the United 109 00:09:31,53 --> 00:09:36,58 States armed forces who died or were declared missing in action in the Vietnam War 110 00:09:37,38 --> 00:09:41,53 And whereas on September twenty fifth two thousand and nine Governor Arnold 111 00:09:41,54 --> 00:09:46,08 Schwarzenegger signed California Assembly Bill seven one seven establishing March 112 00:09:46,09 --> 00:09:50,95 thirtieth of every year to be welcome home Vietnam Veterans Day A.B. 113 00:09:50,96 --> 00:09:56,37 Seven one seven encourages all California public schools to observe this day by 114 00:09:56,38 --> 00:10:00,75 learning about the sacrifices Vietnam veterans made to protect our country's 115 00:10:00,76 --> 00:10:05,08 freedoms and about the importance of helping Vietnam era veterans readjust to 116 00:10:05,09 --> 00:10:09,71 civilian life now their. For be it proclaimed that the city council of the city of 117 00:10:09,72 --> 00:10:15,08 Arcadia hereby proclaim smarts thirtieth of every year to be welcome home Vietnam 118 00:10:15,09 --> 00:10:19,96 Veterans Day in Arcadia the Council on or Vietnam War veterans for their extreme 119 00:10:19,97 --> 00:10:25,05 sacrifice both in Southeast Asia and at home and expresses profound gratitude for 120 00:10:25,06 --> 00:10:27,43 their faithful service to our country signed 121 00:10:27,44 --> 00:10:32,27 a day by Mayor Bratton and I believe Alan Baker with V.F.W. 122 00:10:32,43 --> 00:10:38,23 Two five four two is here. Thank you. 123 00:10:48,59 --> 00:10:54,33 On behalf of all the Vietnam veterans who did not serve no Kamel and who made the 124 00:10:54,34 --> 00:11:00,46 ultimate sacrifice except this and on in their behalf thank you thank you. 125 00:11:09,38 --> 00:11:14,24 Right that finishes our ceremonial matters portion of the agenda and moves us to 126 00:11:14,25 --> 00:11:15,90 report by commissioning committee 127 00:11:16,75 --> 00:11:21,20 a presentation of the annual report from the open space and Agriculture Committee 128 00:11:21,68 --> 00:11:25,09 and do we have someone here from the committee please come forward. 129 00:11:30,29 --> 00:11:36,15 My name is Julie Perry. Thank you but there's. A little bit. 130 00:11:37,51 --> 00:11:43,87 I my name is Julie Perry I'm the current chair open space and Agriculture Committee 131 00:11:44,41 --> 00:11:45,23 we've had 132 00:11:45,24 --> 00:11:50,76 a busy year this year so I'll summarize little bit of what's been going on. First 133 00:11:50,77 --> 00:11:55,56 of all we unfortunately have had three of our members leave us this year so we do 134 00:11:55,57 --> 00:12:01,42 have three vacancies. That we're hoping to fill this year we provided the council 135 00:12:01,43 --> 00:12:06,22 with input on acquisitions and development projects we've also provided input to 136 00:12:06,23 --> 00:12:11,68 the council in the form of various recommendations and plans and these include the 137 00:12:11,69 --> 00:12:12,63 ridge trail that's 138 00:12:12,64 --> 00:12:18,32 a biggie the twenty two acre property closed escrow and the final grant for the 139 00:12:18,33 --> 00:12:22,63 Humphrey property from the Wildlife Conservation Board was approved just this last 140 00:12:22,64 --> 00:12:28,07 week. Another big priority for us this year was the development of 141 00:12:28,08 --> 00:12:34,32 a Western Greenbelt plan. We worked quite a lot on that in the plan consists of 142 00:12:34,33 --> 00:12:35,20 a history of the arcade 143 00:12:35,21 --> 00:12:41,46 a bottom and the city's historical efforts to preserve ag land there and also. 144 00:12:42,52 --> 00:12:47,97 Goals and strategies for future production such as easements and supporting the 145 00:12:47,98 --> 00:12:52,05 local. Market here locally so 146 00:12:52,06 --> 00:12:57,14 a draft of the plan has been sent to city staff it's where it is now for review and 147 00:12:57,15 --> 00:13:02,16 editing and mapping the going to doing some mapping for us along the same lines we 148 00:13:02,17 --> 00:13:06,84 also met with the North Coast regional land trust to discuss how to support 149 00:13:07,22 --> 00:13:13,06 conservation easements within that Western Green Belt area. This year we also made 150 00:13:13,07 --> 00:13:17,59 a recommendation to the city to use soil survey maps and soil classifications for 151 00:13:17,60 --> 00:13:23,84 defining or valuing prime AG soils during Project environmental reviews we also 152 00:13:23,85 --> 00:13:28,55 began review of the city bench naming policy that was done as 153 00:13:28,56 --> 00:13:33,48 a follow up to the council and Natural Resource Committee study session that we had 154 00:13:33,49 --> 00:13:36,60 this year. We also made 155 00:13:36,99 --> 00:13:42,02 a recommendation to the council recently to support the north coast rail of Dorothy 156 00:13:42,03 --> 00:13:46,36 and revoking permits for billboards on their land that's within this the city 157 00:13:46,37 --> 00:13:51,33 limits. Our goals for this coming year follow up on and on 158 00:13:51,34 --> 00:13:55,51 a lot of these things that we've been working on and they include assisting the 159 00:13:55,55 --> 00:14:00,33 city staff with final management plans for all our recently acquired open space 160 00:14:00,34 --> 00:14:04,73 areas including Schmidt Bower and Humphrey and green diamond all those parcels that 161 00:14:04,93 --> 00:14:10,24 are completing the ridge trail from West End Road out through Sandy break. 162 00:14:11,73 --> 00:14:15,94 We'll continue reviewing and supporting potential trails in and around our Arcadia 163 00:14:15,95 --> 00:14:21,47 to further open our open space because of neighborhood trail connectivity. We're 164 00:14:21,48 --> 00:14:25,32 going to further develop the Western Greenbelt plan including investigating the 165 00:14:25,33 --> 00:14:30,32 potential for working with local land trusts and other interested parties. One of 166 00:14:30,33 --> 00:14:34,14 our pro priorities in the coming year is to address code issues in the land use 167 00:14:34,15 --> 00:14:40,01 code in the general plan regarding ag land site coverage we're also looking forward 168 00:14:40,02 --> 00:14:46,81 to providing input on developing public access to the forest by permit and 169 00:14:46,95 --> 00:14:52,14 lastly coming up real soon for us we're going to be completing the draft management 170 00:14:52,15 --> 00:14:57,54 plan on Bayview ranch so these are all projects that we've been working on over the 171 00:14:57,55 --> 00:15:02,33 year and that we're going to continue in the coming year. THANK YOU THANK YOU 172 00:15:02,71 --> 00:15:06,91 Celtic questions this is going to say you've been really busy and then in 173 00:15:07,66 --> 00:15:11,31 recognition of all that hard work on the arcade or rich trail there is going to be 174 00:15:11,32 --> 00:15:15,43 tomorrow night I think it's at seven o'clock is that right Mark there's going to be 175 00:15:15,44 --> 00:15:21,77 a party at their plans have you to celebrate actually making the final sum of money 176 00:15:21,78 --> 00:15:27,52 for the for the last acquisition Yeah yeah yeah it's hard to believe that we only 177 00:15:27,53 --> 00:15:27,94 meet once 178 00:15:27,95 --> 00:15:33,16 a month we can seem to when you have so many things you've accomplished Yeah so 179 00:15:33,17 --> 00:15:38,31 thank you thank you Julie I had one thought I was just looking at the quality of 180 00:15:38,32 --> 00:15:45,04 life indicators and. I was thinking that fortunately 181 00:15:45,16 --> 00:15:51,97 this thing isn't working for me so you know my notes here for me but I. Like food 182 00:15:51,98 --> 00:15:56,80 security so there wouldn't think you know. When preservation was one of our 183 00:15:57,31 --> 00:16:00,36 reproduction I see that but there's 184 00:16:00,37 --> 00:16:04,25 a lot of people here in this region that are looking at food security not food 185 00:16:04,26 --> 00:16:07,99 security but I'm trying to say food accessibility Yes because that's kind of 186 00:16:08,00 --> 00:16:14,04 a quality of life thing you know and it can be an issue for people so it's just 187 00:16:14,05 --> 00:16:14,78 something there's like 188 00:16:14,79 --> 00:16:19,41 a whole group of people that are looking at food you know read the regional food 189 00:16:19,42 --> 00:16:26,40 networks and I just thought that something listed in there about access to quality 190 00:16:26,41 --> 00:16:32,98 food in the western. Country about the quality of life indicators OK that 191 00:16:33,79 --> 00:16:36,51 because I think I think each of the committees is looking at different quality of 192 00:16:36,52 --> 00:16:40,23 life indicators and I would say that that's something that would if this is an 193 00:16:40,24 --> 00:16:44,84 agriculture group I mean I know we're not social services we don't do that but 194 00:16:45,06 --> 00:16:49,63 since we're talking about quality of life and it's an issue in this region and 195 00:16:49,64 --> 00:16:55,02 there are groups of people meeting talking about this stuff I think there's data so 196 00:16:55,52 --> 00:17:01,35 it just struck me as an idea that we should be paying attention to. People in the 197 00:17:01,36 --> 00:17:04,71 city and they do they have access to food right now that's actually something we've 198 00:17:04,72 --> 00:17:05,19 been talking 199 00:17:05,20 --> 00:17:09,15 a lot about particularly with the Western green belt plan in addition to the 200 00:17:09,16 --> 00:17:15,94 quality of life indicators. That that's one of the things that having that 201 00:17:15,98 --> 00:17:22,08 Western green about hopes to protect. The ag land they're 202 00:17:22,82 --> 00:17:29,31 producing quality organic food that's accessible to our local community that's the 203 00:17:29,32 --> 00:17:33,15 part of that because it's like you know there's a lot of situations even There's 204 00:17:33,16 --> 00:17:38,97 a lot of people in Central Valley food food world basically you know agriculture 205 00:17:38,98 --> 00:17:42,78 world you might say that don't have access to good food yeah so I mean this kind of 206 00:17:42,79 --> 00:17:45,62 thing occurs so I just wanted to point that out as 207 00:17:45,63 --> 00:17:50,57 a something to to actually list so that you keep it in mind so as we're doing it we 208 00:17:50,58 --> 00:17:54,99 can keep that in mind along the way because we can be producing cheese out there 209 00:17:54,100 --> 00:18:01,03 shipping it to China and that's great because you know economy but maybe we're not 210 00:18:01,04 --> 00:18:04,83 eating you know there's that aspect so it's just something that you have to kind of 211 00:18:04,96 --> 00:18:05,87 pay attention to 212 00:18:06,77 --> 00:18:10,47 a particular commodity so it's an important point I think and I think it's 213 00:18:10,48 --> 00:18:15,29 consistent with our part of the heel the healthy eating active living network 214 00:18:15,35 --> 00:18:19,12 within the state and that's kind of where that falls and so that point about access 215 00:18:19,13 --> 00:18:24,32 to healthy foods so maybe an opportunity for you primarily the record program has 216 00:18:24,33 --> 00:18:28,03 been the lead on that so there may be opportunities across walk with your committee 217 00:18:28,25 --> 00:18:33,28 in your spare time looking to do increase this year as it is working. 218 00:18:34,80 --> 00:18:40,97 Inter-departmental. Many great cost so definitely bring that point back maybe Thank 219 00:18:40,98 --> 00:18:47,01 you thank you. And I just I wanted to thank you again for all of the work the 220 00:18:47,02 --> 00:18:51,06 committee has put into the ridge trail project it's you know we've been talking 221 00:18:51,07 --> 00:18:56,29 about it for years and it's exciting that it's finally coming into being so I think 222 00:18:56,30 --> 00:19:01,46 the committee successive you know generations of committee members that had 223 00:19:01,47 --> 00:19:05,49 a lot to do with that so thank you to everyone who the stare presently in the 224 00:19:05,78 --> 00:19:12,53 people who have come before us well thank you. All right is there any member of the 225 00:19:12,54 --> 00:19:17,59 public who would like to comment on that committee report All right seeing none 226 00:19:17,60 --> 00:19:24,04 that will move us to be under reports presentation of the annual report from the 227 00:19:24,05 --> 00:19:29,07 historic and design review commission and I see John Barstow's here please come 228 00:19:29,08 --> 00:19:29,55 forward. 229 00:19:37,75 --> 00:19:44,32 I am John Barstow chair of the historic design review commission. I'd just like to 230 00:19:44,32 --> 00:19:51,11 jump directly to the goals and recommendations for this year. The 231 00:19:51,12 --> 00:19:57,71 first recommendation is and goal is to continue the recognition of exemplary 232 00:19:57,72 --> 00:20:04,35 projects through the design awards program. I know that is on our list every year 233 00:20:04,89 --> 00:20:11,66 last year we actually did do it. So. That's another we're 234 00:20:11,70 --> 00:20:17,34 aiming for it again this year. Expand the list of the north coast native plants 235 00:20:17,35 --> 00:20:22,23 suitable for use in landscaping and in rain gardens and bio swales I think there's 236 00:20:22,24 --> 00:20:28,62 a lot of interest locally in. Using native plants in landscaping 237 00:20:28,66 --> 00:20:31,80 and. We feel that would be 238 00:20:31,81 --> 00:20:38,19 a good idea to expand the. Existing list of native plants and 239 00:20:39,20 --> 00:20:43,100 actually call out plants that are suitable for these uses. 240 00:20:46,82 --> 00:20:51,44 Include on checklist low impact design measures to eliminate water runoff from 241 00:20:51,45 --> 00:20:58,19 developed sites. The. The term low 242 00:20:58,21 --> 00:21:04,48 impact design unfortunately is very nebulous. So you don't immediately get the idea 243 00:21:04,49 --> 00:21:10,75 that what it's about is avoiding water runoff from. Developed sites 244 00:21:11,23 --> 00:21:17,81 into the into the sewers. Expand training 245 00:21:17,82 --> 00:21:22,39 opportunities especially for sequel training investigate possible low or no cost 246 00:21:23,09 --> 00:21:29,94 sequel training alternatives. This is on our list every year also and I think one 247 00:21:29,95 --> 00:21:36,67 of the stumbling blocks probably is the cost of. Producing the training. 248 00:21:39,21 --> 00:21:43,54 I think maybe we can get more creative about how we do it and look for possible 249 00:21:43,55 --> 00:21:50,46 online training sources or even. Utilizing the 250 00:21:51,24 --> 00:21:57,79 in-house knowledge in our. Commissions and staff to. Put on our own 251 00:21:57,80 --> 00:22:04,54 seminars. Work on ARC is the sign of you hand out including the 252 00:22:04,75 --> 00:22:11,23 one to one in Cancun replacement. The one to one incoming replacement refers to. 253 00:22:13,63 --> 00:22:15,89 The situation where on 254 00:22:15,90 --> 00:22:22,60 a historic or possibly historic. House or building. When repairs are 255 00:22:22,61 --> 00:22:24,12 needed there's 256 00:22:24,13 --> 00:22:30,51 a certain cutoff point at which. Historical design review commission 257 00:22:31,11 --> 00:22:37,82 review is required. Depending on the extent of of 258 00:22:37,83 --> 00:22:44,60 a replacement and the. Landmarks committee is 259 00:22:45,25 --> 00:22:51,73 is working on that question hopefully will produce some guidelines that will be 260 00:22:51,74 --> 00:22:56,48 presented to you. Review and provide 261 00:22:56,49 --> 00:23:00,52 a recommendation to the City Council prior to the City Council considering the 262 00:23:00,53 --> 00:23:05,69 historic landmarks committee's recommendations regarding the review process for 263 00:23:05,70 --> 00:23:12,37 a fifty year period of significant buildings. And number 264 00:23:12,38 --> 00:23:17,55 seven with the historic landmarks Committee continue the work on the historic 265 00:23:17,56 --> 00:23:21,29 survey of historic resources in the baby and neighborhood conservation area 266 00:23:22,24 --> 00:23:26,34 designated landmark historic and noteworthy properties and key architectural 267 00:23:26,35 --> 00:23:31,83 periods and building types for historic resources and other in other neighborhood 268 00:23:31,84 --> 00:23:38,39 conservation areas. And the goal of these two. Recommendations and. 269 00:23:40,20 --> 00:23:42,54 Is to make sure that the city has 270 00:23:42,55 --> 00:23:49,33 a strong. Program for historic resource preservation but 271 00:23:49,34 --> 00:23:55,19 balancing it with. Clarity and simplicity and. 272 00:23:56,41 --> 00:24:03,36 Ease of. Property owners. Being able to work on 273 00:24:03,37 --> 00:24:10,03 their property and then finally review the land use code signage 274 00:24:10,04 --> 00:24:16,98 standards particularly an arcade as downtown. If you're familiar with the 275 00:24:17,36 --> 00:24:24,29 city's. Sign codes. You probably note that there are observe mostly 276 00:24:24,30 --> 00:24:29,15 in the nonobservance of them. So. 277 00:24:31,02 --> 00:24:34,04 If we take a look at this I think it'll be 278 00:24:34,05 --> 00:24:41,01 a question of deciding whether we need to revise the standards to make them 279 00:24:41,02 --> 00:24:47,46 fit the circumstances or to figure out how to enforce the existing 280 00:24:48,29 --> 00:24:54,23 codes. There are any questions or comments on the go ahead to address them. 281 00:24:57,14 --> 00:25:01,24 Well I thought about mentioning just Alex and I just took 282 00:25:01,25 --> 00:25:02,77 a trip this last weekend and went to 283 00:25:02,78 --> 00:25:08,22 a local government commission meeting and it's actually more exciting than that 284 00:25:08,23 --> 00:25:11,98 sounds it was really fun it was it's really 285 00:25:11,99 --> 00:25:17,81 a lot about cities and design and they were addressing climate change and some of 286 00:25:17,82 --> 00:25:23,04 the energy issues we're all facing but. There's some part of me that that's really 287 00:25:23,05 --> 00:25:27,06 going to try to figure out to either get some kind of people up here or see if what 288 00:25:27,07 --> 00:25:30,30 you know I mean I would I would suggest people just even look at some of their web 289 00:25:30,31 --> 00:25:33,31 site and some of their publications because they've really worked out 290 00:25:33,32 --> 00:25:34,13 a lot of this stuff 291 00:25:34,14 --> 00:25:39,64 a lot about the smart streets you know just things like that. I just want to 292 00:25:39,65 --> 00:25:44,23 mention that because you know the historic in design review is in the back of my 293 00:25:44,24 --> 00:25:48,14 mind when I'm watching these presentations and things and trying to think of how to 294 00:25:48,15 --> 00:25:53,44 bring these type of things and education to you guys and to the Community 295 00:25:53,45 --> 00:25:57,81 Development Department really I mean I kind of feel like I'd be great if we could 296 00:25:57,82 --> 00:26:01,65 all go somehow you know San Jose was able to work that out they had like five or 297 00:26:01,66 --> 00:26:07,85 six people there but. So it's just something that. I just want to mention because 298 00:26:07,86 --> 00:26:09,32 it is in the back of my mind it's 299 00:26:09,33 --> 00:26:13,97 a great website just to check out and also. I'm going to try to figure out how to 300 00:26:14,01 --> 00:26:18,44 get that sort of for training because they have really they really work with some 301 00:26:18,45 --> 00:26:23,33 great consultants and they have some really interesting creative ways of addressing 302 00:26:23,34 --> 00:26:26,96 some of these issues that we're facing with you know that you guys face and 303 00:26:26,97 --> 00:26:33,74 Community Development faces so I mentioned that thank you so one of the energy one 304 00:26:33,75 --> 00:26:39,44 of the energy presentations the first line he had leave windows alone leave 305 00:26:39,45 --> 00:26:44,35 historic windows alone that was his number one thing and so 306 00:26:44,36 --> 00:26:47,39 a lot of people don't understand when you go to retrofit 307 00:26:47,40 --> 00:26:51,60 a house for energy conservation they they always think windows in the city of 308 00:26:51,61 --> 00:26:55,100 arcade as are has in the past and I don't know if you still do but you make it 309 00:26:56,01 --> 00:27:01,08 possible to make get blown replacement of all the windows windows of the last thing 310 00:27:01,09 --> 00:27:05,43 you want to do you and he talked about the on bill up of the building and how you 311 00:27:05,44 --> 00:27:10,46 start with your underneath your foundation with insulation your attics and then all 312 00:27:10,47 --> 00:27:15,50 those other leaks that you have through your plugs in your light fixtures and and 313 00:27:15,51 --> 00:27:20,27 your smoke detectors and how you have to pull all that together and then you look 314 00:27:20,28 --> 00:27:24,84 at how you can rework your windows and keep them because they aren't the first 315 00:27:24,85 --> 00:27:30,07 thing that she would replace for energy efficiency so I thought you know it's I 316 00:27:30,08 --> 00:27:33,94 think that's something we always have to keep in mind because because when we had 317 00:27:33,95 --> 00:27:34,42 as best 318 00:27:34,43 --> 00:27:39,16 a salesman they said you put it's best to sell your house you'll never have to 319 00:27:39,17 --> 00:27:45,13 paint it again and when you had the aluminum salesman they said if you put aluminum 320 00:27:45,14 --> 00:27:48,48 on your house you'll never have to paint it again and you don't have to worry will 321 00:27:48,49 --> 00:27:53,77 take all the trim off too and when now we have window salesman and so they tell us 322 00:27:54,01 --> 00:27:57,94 you replace your windows and you'll never have any problem with being cold again 323 00:27:57,95 --> 00:28:03,19 and it's not true and people spend lots and lots of money to replace their windows 324 00:28:03,20 --> 00:28:09,90 and they're still cold so I and I know I thought for sure that the at one time that 325 00:28:09,91 --> 00:28:14,60 the historic landmarks committee was working. I am one on one in kind replacement 326 00:28:14,92 --> 00:28:18,90 and I assume that the city is in you know I see this here and I'm assuming the city 327 00:28:18,91 --> 00:28:23,05 is interested in proceeding along that line with the having the committee help you 328 00:28:23,53 --> 00:28:30,24 come up with that one on one replacement and. Keep thank you baby baby you 329 00:28:30,25 --> 00:28:34,24 neighborhood we should get out of baby you and go somewhere else there are 330 00:28:34,25 --> 00:28:40,86 a lot of neighborhoods in Arcadia and Babe you I know you live there. We did 331 00:28:40,87 --> 00:28:46,35 a survey two surveys have been there done there one was by Bill holes class which 332 00:28:46,36 --> 00:28:49,79 did a good portion of it and then the last survey we did 333 00:28:49,80 --> 00:28:53,76 a survey only I think every house has been photographed up there on the information 334 00:28:53,77 --> 00:28:58,36 so I thank you for us to continually consider dealing with 335 00:28:58,40 --> 00:29:04,36 a view we're stuck and we need to go somewhere else I think what's happening is 336 00:29:04,37 --> 00:29:08,54 that the historic landmarks committee is in the process of pulling all that 337 00:29:08,55 --> 00:29:14,23 information together. And that's why we mentioned baby you OK as it says to 338 00:29:14,24 --> 00:29:20,65 continue to work on the historic survey the landmarks. Resources for the baby you 339 00:29:20,66 --> 00:29:24,12 neighborhood conservation area and I think you know we have other conservation 340 00:29:24,13 --> 00:29:28,97 areas we really need to move into and start working on those and the baby you has 341 00:29:29,01 --> 00:29:34,05 pretty much been covered and it was done in the survey and the survey as far as I 342 00:29:34,06 --> 00:29:38,03 know it works I've seen it and it can work and I hope that you had an opportunity 343 00:29:38,04 --> 00:29:42,83 to have that presentation to at this committee at your committee I'm not giving you 344 00:29:42,84 --> 00:29:49,05 a bad time John I think. It may sound like that but I thought she's like I believe 345 00:29:49,06 --> 00:29:55,58 that. The order of the committee is now is and Larry could probably fill you in 346 00:29:55,59 --> 00:30:02,40 exactly on this. Is putting the information together in usable form so that 347 00:30:03,30 --> 00:30:09,13 the property owners will be able to access it and use it when they consider what 348 00:30:09,54 --> 00:30:15,20 they're doing to their properties. And also you know I have observed that having 349 00:30:15,24 --> 00:30:21,57 done one. Area of the city one neighborhood conservation area that 350 00:30:22,48 --> 00:30:28,70 it'll make the subsequent ones much quicker and easier because of the commonalities 351 00:30:28,71 --> 00:30:35,49 in the types of. Buildings that appear throughout town so the 352 00:30:35,50 --> 00:30:42,48 next whatever whatever the next step is will be much easier and quicker and I 353 00:30:42,49 --> 00:30:46,50 think it's great that you're looking at ID and I know that's something the wetlands 354 00:30:46,51 --> 00:30:49,04 creaks committee has been talking about for 355 00:30:49,05 --> 00:30:53,18 a long time and so hopefully they'll be some coordination between the two of you I 356 00:30:53,19 --> 00:30:57,67 know you're both in your staff is in different departments of the city you're only 357 00:30:57,68 --> 00:31:02,56 steps away but I'm hoping that on this issue you can all work together the staff 358 00:31:02,57 --> 00:31:08,72 will come together and work on this you know we would welcome. Conferring with any 359 00:31:08,73 --> 00:31:13,79 of the other committees that are relevant to the issues that are in front of us 360 00:31:14,54 --> 00:31:16,00 this is a this is been 361 00:31:16,01 --> 00:31:22,66 a pet project of the chair for the exam while I'm Bob Brown. ID So 362 00:31:23,43 --> 00:31:28,35 thank you member we I just want to kind of add on to that in terms of the Bayview 363 00:31:28,36 --> 00:31:32,66 neighborhood. I'm glad they're going to other neighborhoods too because I think 364 00:31:32,67 --> 00:31:32,83 there's 365 00:31:32,84 --> 00:31:36,86 a lot of great historic resources throughout the city and I think this expanded 366 00:31:36,87 --> 00:31:41,25 survey it could be the basis for maybe some historic walking to or some within the 367 00:31:41,26 --> 00:31:44,13 city that something people always ask about when they come there kid 368 00:31:44,14 --> 00:31:49,03 a so and since we have the historic preservation legislator of the year of 369 00:31:49,04 --> 00:31:54,50 a couple years ago sitting right here. That's another project Alice could work on 370 00:31:54,51 --> 00:31:58,67 her spare time with that committee said but thanks for all the work you guys are 371 00:31:58,68 --> 00:31:59,69 doing I know you got 372 00:31:59,70 --> 00:32:06,16 a tough job so THANK YOU THANK YOU council member Winkler. In China in addition to 373 00:32:06,16 --> 00:32:13,14 . Paper copies of handouts if you thought of putting these on line yes and also 374 00:32:13,15 --> 00:32:17,70 what which handouts are you he mentioned one in the report one of the ones are you 375 00:32:17,71 --> 00:32:21,42 thinking of well for the on the L. 376 00:32:21,43 --> 00:32:24,50 Idea for that what we're talking about. 377 00:32:28,71 --> 00:32:30,82 Oh yeah there's a whole 378 00:32:31,24 --> 00:32:37,35 a whole range of handouts that. Actually cover or just about all of the. 379 00:32:38,46 --> 00:32:40,30 Aspects that 380 00:32:40,34 --> 00:32:47,34 a. Applicant would need to know about in order to submit an application 381 00:32:47,93 --> 00:32:53,24 and. There Larry could probably tell you how many there are but. 382 00:32:55,22 --> 00:33:01,74 They haven't all been updated so this is 383 00:33:03,65 --> 00:33:08,78 this is the direction that the commission is going. About. 384 00:33:10,37 --> 00:33:17,10 Daniels. Yes. 385 00:33:18,49 --> 00:33:24,30 You know. But we currently have I think there's approximately twenty handouts that 386 00:33:24,31 --> 00:33:28,69 we have on the website right now that are dealing with general things like how do 387 00:33:28,70 --> 00:33:29,94 you present 388 00:33:29,95 --> 00:33:34,90 a plot plan and just general things with dealing with design what was submitted to 389 00:33:34,91 --> 00:33:39,09 the commission at your last meeting as as you recall in the historic context that 390 00:33:39,10 --> 00:33:43,55 was prepared there was I think there was thirty eight different housing stylesheets 391 00:33:43,56 --> 00:33:47,43 that were prepared and so the question that was we were bringing up with this story 392 00:33:47,44 --> 00:33:51,68 can design review commission is that at the staff level we want to get those 393 00:33:52,42 --> 00:33:58,19 stylesheets out to the community so that they can start referring to when you have 394 00:33:58,20 --> 00:33:58,93 a house and say it's 395 00:33:58,94 --> 00:34:02,84 a craftsman style house then you know what the character defining features of our 396 00:34:02,85 --> 00:34:07,44 in that house and so that was kind of the discussion that we had with them and 397 00:34:07,49 --> 00:34:11,17 there's I think when you have your joint study session between the historic 398 00:34:11,18 --> 00:34:15,19 landmark Committee and the historical design review commission that we can try to 399 00:34:15,20 --> 00:34:19,06 come to some some conclusions on some of these things because as you recall the 400 00:34:19,07 --> 00:34:21,52 historic landmark committee had recommended that there be 401 00:34:21,53 --> 00:34:25,21 a consultant the do additional work on the historic survey and so this is the 402 00:34:25,22 --> 00:34:29,89 question can we use the historic survey can we not use historic survey can we use 403 00:34:29,90 --> 00:34:34,26 the stylesheets can we not use the and there are so disconnection between what the 404 00:34:34,27 --> 00:34:39,18 historic landmark committee may have said and what the historical design review 405 00:34:39,19 --> 00:34:43,33 committee would like Commission would like to do regarding getting the information 406 00:34:43,34 --> 00:34:47,22 out to the public and used as quickly as possible even though it may not be in 407 00:34:47,23 --> 00:34:53,43 a perfect form. Well you know my feeling is and I have looked at this survey and I 408 00:34:53,48 --> 00:34:54,87 have actually I have it on 409 00:34:54,88 --> 00:35:01,58 a. One of those drives and it is accessible as usable and I think there's some 410 00:35:01,69 --> 00:35:05,77 problems maybe with House staff knows how to use it or how the consultant gave it 411 00:35:05,78 --> 00:35:11,96 to you or whatever it is and so and it by now we should have it up and running on 412 00:35:11,97 --> 00:35:18,25 our. Desktop out there so that you can bring it up and you can see what each one 413 00:35:18,26 --> 00:35:25,17 looks like and. So I just think there's some issues I'd like to work 414 00:35:25,18 --> 00:35:29,65 with you all and see if we can't figure it out because I think it's beyond I think 415 00:35:29,66 --> 00:35:32,04 it's gotten into some realm that it shouldn't be N. 416 00:35:32,35 --> 00:35:39,28 And I believe it's workable and we can make it work. Thank you well 417 00:35:39,43 --> 00:35:44,81 thank you for the report and I'm curious how the relationship is between the 418 00:35:45,03 --> 00:35:50,25 historic landmarks committee and historic can design review commission given that 419 00:35:50,26 --> 00:35:50,42 it's 420 00:35:50,43 --> 00:35:54,62 a relatively new committee are there ways that we could improve collaboration or 421 00:35:54,63 --> 00:35:56,16 communication as 422 00:35:56,17 --> 00:36:01,44 a work and so far well. There's 423 00:36:01,48 --> 00:36:08,08 a mismatch in the. Frequency with which we meet design 424 00:36:08,09 --> 00:36:13,87 review meets twice a month historic landmarks committee is once 425 00:36:13,88 --> 00:36:19,31 a month. And sometimes this causes a speed bump in 426 00:36:19,33 --> 00:36:25,88 a given project when we refer a project to the H.L.C. 427 00:36:25,88 --> 00:36:32,65 For an opinion on the historic aspect depending on when our meeting is versus when 428 00:36:32,66 --> 00:36:35,48 there is is a little sometimes slow things down 429 00:36:35,49 --> 00:36:41,52 a bit for the applicants. The hope would be that with the 430 00:36:42,52 --> 00:36:49,12 stylesheets in the survey group Zoltan and so on that. It would be possible 431 00:36:49,74 --> 00:36:56,40 to resolve some of the questions. Without having to send that particular 432 00:36:57,02 --> 00:36:59,27 project to the H.L.C. 433 00:36:59,27 --> 00:37:05,83 . In terms of our relationship with them. I'd like to see 434 00:37:05,84 --> 00:37:11,84 more. Joint study sessions. With the H.L.C. 435 00:37:11,84 --> 00:37:17,71 . But you know they're doing the real nitty gritty 436 00:37:18,56 --> 00:37:25,20 work on these issues and. Although it would be 437 00:37:25,33 --> 00:37:32,13 asked through the historic and design view commission. You know we'd like to 438 00:37:32,14 --> 00:37:32,69 collaborate 439 00:37:32,70 --> 00:37:39,16 a little bit more with them thank you any other council questions or 440 00:37:39,17 --> 00:37:42,86 comments. Just all right thank you again. 441 00:37:46,14 --> 00:37:49,42 Is there any member of the public who would like to comment on the report we just 442 00:37:49,43 --> 00:37:56,07 heard. All right seeing none that will move us on to early oral communications 443 00:37:56,47 --> 00:38:00,34 this fifteen minute time period is provided for people to address the Council on 444 00:38:00,35 --> 00:38:05,30 matters not on the agenda at the conclusion of all oral communications the council 445 00:38:05,31 --> 00:38:09,62 may respond to statements any request that requires Council action will be set by 446 00:38:09,63 --> 00:38:10,48 the Council for 447 00:38:10,49 --> 00:38:14,75 a future agenda or referred to staff speakers addressing the council at this time 448 00:38:14,76 --> 00:38:18,84 may be limited to two minutes all other oral and written communications will be 449 00:38:18,85 --> 00:38:25,03 heard at this meeting under agenda item eleven is there anyone who is here. Please 450 00:38:25,04 --> 00:38:31,09 come forward. And is there anyone else who is here for or early oral 451 00:38:31,10 --> 00:38:35,67 communications All right well then I'll give you three minutes I don't think on the 452 00:38:35,68 --> 00:38:40,76 thirty minutes thanks the low cancel staff and everybody Kevin who Arcadia just 453 00:38:40,77 --> 00:38:45,08 want to thank you or buddy for participating in the arcade eyeball that we had last 454 00:38:45,09 --> 00:38:49,88 Saturday night at the Arcadia theater lounge the performers certainly the attendees 455 00:38:50,28 --> 00:38:53,67 all the auction donors and everybody who bid on auction items and made it 456 00:38:53,68 --> 00:38:55,40 a successful fundraiser for the arcade 457 00:38:55,41 --> 00:39:01,13 a rich trail we did get five thousand dollars plus and donations and purchases are 458 00:39:01,14 --> 00:39:06,37 still rolling in so ilex like between that and what Marc Andre got from the well of 459 00:39:06,38 --> 00:39:10,91 Conservation Board we were able to successfully get enough money to acquire the 460 00:39:10,92 --> 00:39:16,75 trail or is it may be known in the future the beach to Michael tells us here. 461 00:39:19,61 --> 00:39:24,58 And you know just like with the sunny forest after everybody successfully helped 462 00:39:24,59 --> 00:39:28,53 acquire that I naively at the time thought oh well we're done well we weren't done 463 00:39:28,54 --> 00:39:32,96 we had to start you know working on making that would actually be 464 00:39:32,97 --> 00:39:35,96 a functional forest for the people which are still doing the same with the rich 465 00:39:35,97 --> 00:39:41,82 trail now we have to raise funds to you know groom the trails and make them usable 466 00:39:41,83 --> 00:39:45,99 for folks and so we're still raising funds and along those lines tomorrow night at 467 00:39:46,00 --> 00:39:48,53 the Plaza view ROOM starting at seven o'clock we're having 468 00:39:48,54 --> 00:39:54,76 a victory party and. So there will be more auction items left over from the eyeball 469 00:39:54,85 --> 00:39:59,77 and there will be a silent auction there and food folks and fun suggest 470 00:39:59,78 --> 00:40:04,14 a donation to get in but just come anyway at seven o'clock pause of your room and 471 00:40:04,15 --> 00:40:10,82 we're going to celebrate the our gator rich trail. And everyone's invited. Thank 472 00:40:10,83 --> 00:40:12,28 you very much let's give in 473 00:40:12,29 --> 00:40:19,13 a round of applause. And not only did you help us 474 00:40:19,14 --> 00:40:19,59 fundraise 475 00:40:19,60 --> 00:40:23,74 a whole lot but that band of you are smashing that was awesome that was something 476 00:40:23,75 --> 00:40:27,11 to hear it will be that awesome or next year we never do the same thing twice and 477 00:40:27,12 --> 00:40:32,47 we already have ideas. For next year. Q Thank you so I just wanted to follow up on 478 00:40:32,48 --> 00:40:36,89 what Kevin was saying is that this year you can stand there because then it makes 479 00:40:36,90 --> 00:40:41,40 it OK for me to say this. The arcade 480 00:40:41,41 --> 00:40:43,87 a Rotary which is our new rotary they're going to have 481 00:40:43,88 --> 00:40:49,30 a wine their wine festival that they normally have and this it's I believe it's 482 00:40:49,31 --> 00:40:55,84 this Saturday and Sunday about to show that you're in an OK Saturday and the money 483 00:40:55,85 --> 00:41:00,02 they raise from that is going towards the arcade or rich trail so I just wanted to 484 00:41:00,03 --> 00:41:04,47 put that in as another organization that is helping with the rich trail and thank 485 00:41:04,48 --> 00:41:06,54 you so much for your help and to Arcade 486 00:41:06,55 --> 00:41:13,35 a rotary for their help. Thank you 487 00:41:13,60 --> 00:41:20,38 thank you. Alright last call for early 488 00:41:20,39 --> 00:41:26,31 oral communications. That moves us to our Consent Calendar all matters on the 489 00:41:26,32 --> 00:41:30,65 Consent Calendar are considered to be routine by the city council and are enacted 490 00:41:30,66 --> 00:41:34,80 in one motion there is no separate discussion of any of these items if discussion 491 00:41:34,81 --> 00:41:38,49 is required that item is removed from the Consent Calendar and considered 492 00:41:38,50 --> 00:41:42,35 separately at the end of the reading of the Consent Calendar council members or 493 00:41:42,36 --> 00:41:46,89 members of the public may request that an item be removed for separate discussion 494 00:41:47,43 --> 00:41:52,72 a approve the minutes from the city council one regular meeting February twentieth 495 00:41:52,73 --> 00:41:56,58 two thousand and thirteen and to adjourn to regular meeting in February twenty 496 00:41:56,59 --> 00:41:58,61 first twenty thirteen B. 497 00:41:58,65 --> 00:42:03,30 Except Steve resignation effective April thirtieth two thousand and thirteen 498 00:42:03,55 --> 00:42:06,36 acknowledge his six years of volunteer service and announce 499 00:42:06,37 --> 00:42:09,37 a vacancy on the open space and Agriculture Committee for 500 00:42:09,38 --> 00:42:14,12 a term ending April thirtieth two thousand and sixteen c approved continued support 501 00:42:14,13 --> 00:42:17,83 for the two thousand and thirteen Godwit Days Festival through the donated use of 502 00:42:17,84 --> 00:42:19,47 the arcade a community center arcade 503 00:42:19,48 --> 00:42:22,90 a marsh interpretive center in the city's banner location and require 504 00:42:22,91 --> 00:42:26,42 a refundable five hundred dollars damage cleanup deposit and 505 00:42:26,43 --> 00:42:30,29 a one thousand two hundred ninety dollars fee to cover staff equipment and supply 506 00:42:30,30 --> 00:42:34,04 expenses incurred by the city's hosting of the event D adopt 507 00:42:34,05 --> 00:42:37,91 a resolution number one two three dash three five authorizing the destruction of 508 00:42:37,92 --> 00:42:42,54 certain obsolete police documents he authorized the city manager to enter into 509 00:42:42,55 --> 00:42:48,21 negotiations for easements and or fee Title property on assessors parcel number 510 00:42:48,22 --> 00:42:53,67 zero two zero dash one one five dash zero zero four zero two zero dash one one 511 00:42:53,68 --> 00:42:59,72 eight dash zero zero one zero two zero dash one two one dash zero zero three zero 512 00:42:59,73 --> 00:43:05,47 two one dash one nine one dash zero zero two five zero five dash zero five one dash 513 00:43:05,48 --> 00:43:10,34 zero two four and or portions thereof to complete the construction of the rail with 514 00:43:10,35 --> 00:43:15,13 trail project. After prove the league of California cities proposed 515 00:43:15,14 --> 00:43:19,95 a resolution to amend the league's bylaws Article six Section two relating to 516 00:43:19,96 --> 00:43:24,06 submission of resolutions to the league's General Assembly and Article seven 517 00:43:24,07 --> 00:43:29,18 Section sixteen relating to the League vote threshold for taking positions on 518 00:43:29,19 --> 00:43:31,35 statewide ballot measures in G. 519 00:43:31,36 --> 00:43:35,95 You reject proposals received in response to the city of Arcadia September twenty 520 00:43:35,96 --> 00:43:38,83 sixth two thousand and twelve request for proposal for 521 00:43:38,84 --> 00:43:42,59 a loan servicing and business loan program administration direct staff to issue 522 00:43:42,60 --> 00:43:44,94 a new request for proposal that would incorporate 523 00:43:44,95 --> 00:43:48,82 a range of services based on the current needs of the city and authorized staff to 524 00:43:48,83 --> 00:43:52,87 prepare an amendment to the current agreement extending it for one year with 525 00:43:52,88 --> 00:43:56,76 a sixty day terminations clause is there any member of the public would like to 526 00:43:56,77 --> 00:44:03,42 remove an item or any member of the council first step request remove item G 527 00:44:04,03 --> 00:44:10,43 G OK And any member of the public again Council public All right who make 528 00:44:10,44 --> 00:44:13,61 a motion to approve the Consent Calendar minus item G. 529 00:44:13,61 --> 00:44:16,08 . Right we have a motion and 530 00:44:16,09 --> 00:44:21,84 a second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye any opposed motion carries items. 531 00:44:23,24 --> 00:44:28,56 Council staff is need some more time to work on those who are asking to continue 532 00:44:28,57 --> 00:44:33,88 this to a future council meeting a move that we continue item G. 533 00:44:34,34 --> 00:44:39,09 Second. All right is there any member of the public who would like to comment on 534 00:44:39,10 --> 00:44:43,65 this and for the council discussion we have a motion in 535 00:44:43,66 --> 00:44:48,84 a second all those in favor say aye any opposed motion carries. 536 00:44:50,47 --> 00:44:57,17 Thank you. This brings us to 537 00:44:57,82 --> 00:45:03,08 hold business a public hearing pertaining to the annexation of 538 00:45:03,09 --> 00:45:07,91 a portion of the surely Boulevard Park Avenue neighborhood assessor parcel numbers 539 00:45:07,92 --> 00:45:14,70 five zero three zero nine two dashes zero zero three as well as Dash zero one four 540 00:45:14,71 --> 00:45:20,87 dash zero two zero dash zero two one and five zero three dash one zero three dash 541 00:45:20,88 --> 00:45:27,82 zero zero seven and Tasha zero zero eight dash zero one zero dash zero one nine 542 00:45:28,11 --> 00:45:33,94 dash zero two three and five zero three dash one zero four dash zero zero one 543 00:45:34,72 --> 00:45:40,89 also dash zero zero two dash zero zero three dash zero zero four dash zero one zero 544 00:45:40,90 --> 00:45:47,80 dashes zero one one dash zero one two and dash zero one three adoption of 545 00:45:47,81 --> 00:45:53,80 resolutions number one two three dash two six amending the general plan and one two 546 00:45:53,81 --> 00:45:58,55 three dash three one applying to local agency formation commission to initiate 547 00:45:58,56 --> 00:46:04,51 annexation and introduction of ordinances number one four two nine and one four 548 00:46:04,52 --> 00:46:08,31 three zero amending sections of Title nine of the arcade 549 00:46:08,32 --> 00:46:10,52 a municipal code may we please have 550 00:46:10,53 --> 00:46:15,93 a staff reporter. Yes believe it or not that was the negotiated short version of 551 00:46:15,94 --> 00:46:22,82 the subject line. So staff is recommending that 552 00:46:23,76 --> 00:46:29,10 you open the public hearing and then to adopt resolution one two three dash two sex 553 00:46:29,11 --> 00:46:34,26 and inst in essence what that resolution does is it would approve the map changes 554 00:46:34,27 --> 00:46:38,72 to the city boundary and make the general plan consistency findings and then also 555 00:46:38,73 --> 00:46:44,44 to approve the negative declaration the second resolution which is one two three 556 00:46:44,45 --> 00:46:49,86 dash three one what that does is that authorizes the city staff to actually submit 557 00:46:49,90 --> 00:46:56,61 the annexation application to laugh Co Then we get into the ordinances and the 558 00:46:56,62 --> 00:47:00,38 first ordinance is fourteen twenty nine what that does is that 559 00:47:00,39 --> 00:47:05,09 a stablish is the presiding on the parcels and again the presiding on those would 560 00:47:05,10 --> 00:47:11,04 be residential very low density and then the next ordinance which is fourteen 561 00:47:11,05 --> 00:47:13,44 thirty and what that would do is that would add 562 00:47:13,45 --> 00:47:18,77 a special consideration combining zone to certain parcels which would basically say 563 00:47:18,81 --> 00:47:23,29 even though they are substandard as to the city zoning code in other words there 564 00:47:23,30 --> 00:47:28,44 that less than the twenty thousand square foot minimum parcel size that that would 565 00:47:28,45 --> 00:47:29,30 not be considered 566 00:47:29,31 --> 00:47:35,53 a non-conforming site condition. And so as you recall you had 567 00:47:35,95 --> 00:47:40,58 a hearing on this on February twentieth where you directed us to bring back these 568 00:47:40,59 --> 00:47:45,48 ordinances and resolutions in final forms and there was at that meeting there was 569 00:47:45,49 --> 00:47:50,96 a recommendation from the Planning Commission that the council. Approved these 570 00:47:50,97 --> 00:47:54,84 ordinances and resolution and forward this recommendation on to the city council 571 00:47:55,34 --> 00:47:58,54 and then also I wanted to point out at your last meeting you conducted 572 00:47:58,55 --> 00:48:03,81 a straw vote where you informed the property owners that it was your intention that 573 00:48:03,82 --> 00:48:04,83 we would bring back at 574 00:48:04,84 --> 00:48:10,23 a later time an ordinance which would not require them to connect into the city 575 00:48:10,24 --> 00:48:16,90 Senator source system unless they're either expanding beyond the capacity of their 576 00:48:16,91 --> 00:48:23,57 existing system or their current system has failed and then 577 00:48:23,61 --> 00:48:27,60 lastly I want to point out that what you would be doing is you would be approving 578 00:48:27,61 --> 00:48:30,15 the environmental document and we are doing 579 00:48:30,16 --> 00:48:34,53 a joint environmental document which is the surely Boulevard and avoid road areas 580 00:48:34,86 --> 00:48:40,21 and that the actions tonight with regard to any an exception says only for the 581 00:48:40,22 --> 00:48:44,68 Shirley Boulevard project but by adopting the project you would adopt the 582 00:48:45,05 --> 00:48:51,92 environment document for both of the areas and so with that Stafford 583 00:48:51,93 --> 00:48:57,32 entertain any questions that you may have and we would recommend that you open the 584 00:48:57,33 --> 00:49:03,25 hearing and then to continue it iis I'm sorry we would recommend that you introduce 585 00:49:03,26 --> 00:49:08,72 the ordinances and then to continue the resolutions and we would bring those all 586 00:49:08,73 --> 00:49:13,10 back at your next meeting on April third if that's the action of the council OK 587 00:49:13,11 --> 00:49:17,40 thank you and any initial counsel question that is one to clarify Could you on the 588 00:49:17,41 --> 00:49:22,03 first on the two resolutions the first one he said adopt we are just receiving them 589 00:49:22,04 --> 00:49:26,44 tonight so right and they will adopt them in the future me just want to clarify the 590 00:49:29,12 --> 00:49:34,81 other council questions for the public hearing. All right at this point I will open 591 00:49:34,82 --> 00:49:38,90 the public hearing and receive any testimony please come forward to the microphone 592 00:49:39,20 --> 00:49:46,16 if you would like to speak on the side of. Going what's going twice All right. 593 00:49:47,34 --> 00:49:49,65 I'll turn it back over to counsel and staff. 594 00:49:55,13 --> 00:50:01,14 For this item I mean questions. Like. 595 00:50:02,36 --> 00:50:03,75 Yeah I'll make 596 00:50:03,76 --> 00:50:08,64 a motion that we receive resolutions one two three two six and one two three Desh 597 00:50:08,65 --> 00:50:13,60 three one. Wavery of the text and consent to read by title only an inner deuce 598 00:50:13,61 --> 00:50:20,45 ordinance fourteen thirty and direct staff to place the ordinances fourteen twenty 599 00:50:20,46 --> 00:50:25,69 nine fourteen thirty and resolutions one two three dash two to six zero one two 600 00:50:25,70 --> 00:50:31,81 three Desh three one on the April third city counsel agenda. Second. 601 00:50:34,31 --> 00:50:39,67 All right we have I want to mend I because I don't think I cleared introduced 602 00:50:39,73 --> 00:50:44,42 ordinances both fourteen twenty nine and fourteen thirty so OK during which Mr 603 00:50:44,69 --> 00:50:47,95 Excuse me please read them by title I'm sorry 604 00:50:48,32 --> 00:50:55,27 a the whole thing OK OK inner juice ordinance fourteen twenty 605 00:50:55,28 --> 00:50:56,40 nine a man in the air kid 606 00:50:56,41 --> 00:51:03,06 a Municipal Code Title nine Land Use Code Section nine twelve 607 00:51:03,76 --> 00:51:10,66 dash through zero three zero land use plan map adopted and introduced ordinance 608 00:51:10,70 --> 00:51:12,48 fourteen thirty a man in the air kid in 609 00:51:12,49 --> 00:51:17,34 a scope Title Nine land use code section one point two four dash zero seven zero 610 00:51:17,35 --> 00:51:24,34 zero residential special considerations I apologize but you have to 611 00:51:24,35 --> 00:51:30,89 read all of the associates parcel number thing because that is the full title. All 612 00:51:30,90 --> 00:51:36,65 right. So. You want to hand that off to reading. 613 00:51:39,12 --> 00:51:41,77 Energy for too many their kid 614 00:51:41,78 --> 00:51:46,70 a missile code and you know the rest up until. Eight P.M. 615 00:51:47,07 --> 00:51:51,08 OK adopted for the following surely will of our Park Avenue property sapience five 616 00:51:51,09 --> 00:51:55,47 zero zero three dash zero one four zero one one five zero three one zero four 617 00:51:55,48 --> 00:51:58,20 deaths your one three but I will three one Ford F. 618 00:51:58,21 --> 00:52:03,01 Zero one zero zero five zero three zero three deaths there road two three five zero 619 00:52:03,02 --> 00:52:07,50 three one zero three zero one nine five with three one zero three dashes zero zero 620 00:52:07,51 --> 00:52:11,47 seven five three one zero three deaths zero zero eight five three one three deaths 621 00:52:11,48 --> 00:52:16,79 here is it is zero one zero five zero three zero nine two dash zero two zero and 622 00:52:16,80 --> 00:52:21,30 five zero three zero one two dash series or three five zero three zero one two 623 00:52:21,39 --> 00:52:26,09 dashes zero one four five zero three one zero four zero zero one five with three 624 00:52:26,10 --> 00:52:30,42 zero one one zero four Das reserve two five zero three want a Ford F. 625 00:52:30,43 --> 00:52:30,71 There was 626 00:52:30,72 --> 00:52:36,50 a row three five zero three zero one zero four dash zero one two five with three 627 00:52:36,51 --> 00:52:37,32 one zero Ford F. 628 00:52:37,33 --> 00:52:44,54 Zero zero four and five zero three zero one two dash zero two one. On 629 00:52:44,55 --> 00:52:50,10 that one and then on introduction of ordnance fourteen thirty skipping to A.P. 630 00:52:50,11 --> 00:52:54,96 Ends five with three zero two nine two zero zero three five zero three one three 631 00:52:54,97 --> 00:52:59,28 zero zero eight five three one three zero one nine five with three one zero three 632 00:52:59,29 --> 00:53:05,89 zero two three five zero three one zero four zero zero one five zero three one zero 633 00:53:05,90 --> 00:53:10,08 four zero zero two five zero three one zero four zero zero three five zero three 634 00:53:10,09 --> 00:53:14,30 one zero four zero zero four and five zero zero three one zero four zero one one 635 00:53:14,31 --> 00:53:20,55 way of reading of the text and consent to read by title only and then continue with 636 00:53:20,56 --> 00:53:25,42 Item five of my previous motion. Six I'm sorry. 637 00:53:28,16 --> 00:53:34,97 SECOND BOY feel like oxen. That second was so easy you yeah all 638 00:53:34,98 --> 00:53:37,44 right you have a motion and 639 00:53:37,45 --> 00:53:43,91 a second any further council discussion All right well I'd just like to say we're 640 00:53:43,92 --> 00:53:47,66 having very few questions and very little discussion here tonight because we've 641 00:53:48,26 --> 00:53:48,77 seen this 642 00:53:48,78 --> 00:53:52,88 a few times before but I want to thank staff for all of you who work on this 643 00:53:52,92 --> 00:53:59,55 because the time you put into it was far more than what we did here and you know 644 00:53:59,89 --> 00:54:04,49 for me the checklist was pretty straightforward reading through the document and 645 00:54:04,50 --> 00:54:05,36 I'm sure it took 646 00:54:05,51 --> 00:54:10,45 a lot of time to prepare but it all appeared to be in order so I just wanted to 647 00:54:10,46 --> 00:54:16,04 acknowledge that and thank you for all of the work you put in. I think we should 648 00:54:16,11 --> 00:54:20,85 thank the citizens our community because they have gone to meetings and they've 649 00:54:20,86 --> 00:54:25,52 talked about this and they've given their employer ten and they had their concerns 650 00:54:25,53 --> 00:54:30,23 and whether or not they were going to happen with this annexation So I really 651 00:54:30,24 --> 00:54:34,48 appreciate everyone in all the meetings you've had to attend because say this thank 652 00:54:34,49 --> 00:54:40,08 you. And I know there are still mixed feelings about this out there and I think we 653 00:54:40,09 --> 00:54:44,43 should acknowledge that but I am glad that we were able to address the concern 654 00:54:44,44 --> 00:54:48,98 about looking into city sewer I think that will make this a lot easier for 655 00:54:49,06 --> 00:54:55,35 a lot of people. Right exactly water also. One case yeah. 656 00:54:56,52 --> 00:55:01,81 All right so there's nothing else we have a motion a very long motion and 657 00:55:01,82 --> 00:55:08,68 a second all those in favor please say I I any opposed stanchions OK the 658 00:55:08,69 --> 00:55:15,49 motion carries Thank you all. That will move us to 659 00:55:15,53 --> 00:55:22,23 old business but it will be consider long term options for processing curbside 660 00:55:22,24 --> 00:55:25,38 collected recyclables we please have 661 00:55:25,39 --> 00:55:36,83 a staff report. I 662 00:55:36,84 --> 00:55:40,24 dissent as I'm. Sure if you know. 663 00:56:01,99 --> 00:56:08,68 That's the next Power Point. Everybody in here stick around for this one also. 664 00:56:14,49 --> 00:56:18,22 Oh I did I see. So the. 665 00:56:24,37 --> 00:56:27,74 Old. No. 666 00:56:32,68 --> 00:56:38,26 You think. That we go will be interesting to see how this one comes up. 667 00:56:39,67 --> 00:56:45,65 All right OK in the evening mayor and council members. Tonight this item just 668 00:56:45,66 --> 00:56:51,04 brings forward the potential for. Secret but I can push. 669 00:56:52,60 --> 00:56:57,84 The potential for kind of a second or a new regional recycle processing R.F.P. 670 00:56:58,47 --> 00:57:04,68 Within sort of the humble Bay region and. I just wanted to review quickly for you 671 00:57:04,69 --> 00:57:09,30 sort of what our current program is curbside collection in Arcadia has been in 672 00:57:09,31 --> 00:57:12,85 place for several years now and we're collecting about twenty one hundred tons 673 00:57:12,86 --> 00:57:18,23 annually currently we're processing is handled through humble Waste Management 674 00:57:18,24 --> 00:57:23,91 Authority. And the solid waste of Willits and the City of Arcadia is receiving 675 00:57:23,92 --> 00:57:27,81 a payment for our recyclables of eight dollars and twenty seven cents 676 00:57:27,82 --> 00:57:28,54 a tonne minus 677 00:57:28,55 --> 00:57:33,60 a ten percent handling fee that age to be made takes that particular contract ends 678 00:57:33,61 --> 00:57:38,77 in September of two thousand and sixteen. I dish and only current sort of 679 00:57:38,78 --> 00:57:44,15 a new piece here in Arcadia is that the buyback center that was once operated by 680 00:57:44,16 --> 00:57:50,09 a C.R.C. Is back open and operated by you over disposal and they are of 681 00:57:50,46 --> 00:57:54,02 a very full service buyback similar to our Kate 682 00:57:54,03 --> 00:57:58,10 a recycling center we heard at our last meeting that they're now opening up with 683 00:57:58,11 --> 00:58:02,73 the pain care program and accepting household hazard disappear household paint so 684 00:58:02,74 --> 00:58:07,73 that's great. They also have special recycling days both through 685 00:58:07,74 --> 00:58:13,13 a river and H W M A here in Arcadia that handles the waste and household hazardous 686 00:58:13,14 --> 00:58:16,13 waste household hazardous waste only through aged me. 687 00:58:20,43 --> 00:58:23,86 We've brought to you the potential for a second R.F.P. 688 00:58:24,46 --> 00:58:29,86 Because we guess never it really end to separated for the arrangement with solid 689 00:58:29,86 --> 00:58:31,50 waste the will is through it should be made to be 690 00:58:31,50 --> 00:58:38,44 a long term processing agreement. And. There were several I guess areas of 691 00:58:38,45 --> 00:58:40,81 concern that were brought out specifically by their kid 692 00:58:40,82 --> 00:58:45,14 a community that we felt if we gave enough time to a second R.P. 693 00:58:45,15 --> 00:58:50,43 Process could be identified early on and could be addressed in our P. 694 00:58:50,44 --> 00:58:55,77 Process one of those being the potential for local jobs to return to that to the 695 00:58:55,78 --> 00:59:01,18 processing of our recyclable materials and to really give folks 696 00:59:01,19 --> 00:59:04,41 a time to bid on an R.F.P. 697 00:59:04,42 --> 00:59:09,76 To know that they had tonnage to find a location or either construct 698 00:59:09,77 --> 00:59:15,64 a recycling were for retrofit an existing recycling Merv really could take up to 699 00:59:15,65 --> 00:59:19,58 two years if it also had to include permitting if the site hadn't been permanently 700 00:59:19,81 --> 00:59:24,78 permitted for the processing of recyclables again. So new on the horizon is that 701 00:59:24,79 --> 00:59:29,55 the overview disposal has also purchased the old similar processing facility to be 702 00:59:29,56 --> 00:59:33,45 honest with you and we thought about bringing this item to you it was because the 703 00:59:33,46 --> 00:59:34,15 AC R.C. 704 00:59:34,16 --> 00:59:39,30 Facility was small small peninsula had gone on the market for sale and we felt like 705 00:59:39,31 --> 00:59:43,71 it was important while it was still intact for people that would potentially bid on 706 00:59:43,72 --> 00:59:48,50 this contract that we we move our process forward so that they might be on that 707 00:59:48,51 --> 00:59:53,48 while it was still in the potential for an operating facility that pressure is sort 708 00:59:53,49 --> 00:59:58,28 of reduced but we are glad to know that you know somebody that would consider using 709 00:59:58,29 --> 01:00:02,63 that facility for processing recyclables has purchased it and my understanding is 710 01:00:02,64 --> 01:00:05,79 that escrow has closed down that there are representatives from Yellow River here 711 01:00:05,80 --> 01:00:12,59 tonight if you have questions. Humble Sanitation has who service is McKinley bill 712 01:00:12,69 --> 01:00:17,66 which really in terms of tonnage is about similar to Arcadia they have just their 713 01:00:17,67 --> 01:00:21,58 franchise agreement with the county and they have what we call flow control so they 714 01:00:21,59 --> 01:00:26,79 have control of the recyclables that they're collecting from the curb they are also 715 01:00:26,80 --> 01:00:27,93 in the process of looking for 716 01:00:27,94 --> 01:00:33,31 a long term solutions but currently that tonnage in addition to all of the tonnage 717 01:00:33,57 --> 01:00:33,77 of 718 01:00:33,78 --> 01:00:39,31 a ship you may communities around humble Bay is also being processed through May into 719 01:00:39,32 --> 01:00:43,44 solid waste of Willits So right now all of that tonnage is combined and so we also 720 01:00:43,45 --> 01:00:46,88 thought that was a good reason for us to consider a second R.P. 721 01:00:46,89 --> 01:00:53,40 At this time. In terms of the process to develop an R.F.P. 722 01:00:54,04 --> 01:00:59,19 What we have talked about just said agency staff level is that we would each meet 723 01:00:59,20 --> 01:01:02,87 with our boards and councils and the City of or Rica met last night and they are 724 01:01:02,88 --> 01:01:07,72 Council unanimously supported their staff working to move a recycling R.P. 725 01:01:07,73 --> 01:01:12,60 Forward last night so they were the first ones to talk to their council about it 726 01:01:12,61 --> 01:01:14,63 and then we are tonight but the city is 727 01:01:14,64 --> 01:01:18,18 a blue lake and the county and then aged every male be talking to their boards as 728 01:01:18,19 --> 01:01:24,81 well. And this slide here just shows are the tons that could be potential 729 01:01:24,82 --> 01:01:26,76 in actually were coming in 730 01:01:27,03 --> 01:01:31,90 a little higher we can add probably Hoda we decided Patrick about eight hundred for 731 01:01:31,91 --> 01:01:33,70 the county for the K. 732 01:01:33,71 --> 01:01:37,80 To area in the county and when we look at the most current numbers that we've 733 01:01:37,81 --> 01:01:41,43 received from solid waste to Willits we're probably very close to about nine 734 01:01:41,44 --> 01:01:42,14 thousand tons 735 01:01:42,15 --> 01:01:48,18 a year. We've always thought that to be fully operational and sustainable 736 01:01:48,42 --> 01:01:51,13 a facility of this area would need about ten thousand tonnes 737 01:01:51,14 --> 01:01:56,39 a year so we're very close to that and with the continuation of Eureka accelerating 738 01:01:56,40 --> 01:02:03,35 their commercial program and we've gotten kind of our final three large multifamily 739 01:02:03,36 --> 01:02:08,42 complexes up in on line within the last couple of months so we anticipate that that 740 01:02:08,43 --> 01:02:11,88 tonnage will definitely hit ten thousand within the next year or two. 741 01:02:15,62 --> 01:02:21,24 So I guess in terms of lessons learned and processing recyclables I guess what we 742 01:02:21,25 --> 01:02:23,28 learned in two thousand and ten that operating 743 01:02:23,29 --> 01:02:28,05 a facility which really came down to just hurricane is tight it wasn't sustainable 744 01:02:28,06 --> 01:02:30,83 or financially viable and there I guess just 745 01:02:30,84 --> 01:02:35,22 a number of economic and potential service advantages that are gained by combining 746 01:02:35,23 --> 01:02:37,67 all of our tonnage and going out for an R.F.P. 747 01:02:37,68 --> 01:02:41,32 Together so I think it's both on the potential services that that R.P. 748 01:02:41,33 --> 01:02:48,22 Could render for communities as well as on total price. So I 749 01:02:48,23 --> 01:02:52,05 thought is that if the boards those councils are boards that are interested in 750 01:02:52,06 --> 01:02:54,37 moving forward with a combined tonnage R.F.P. 751 01:02:54,65 --> 01:02:58,25 That we would conduct at least two regional public outreach meetings we would have 752 01:02:58,26 --> 01:03:03,70 one of those located here in Arcadia and likely one in Eureka and through that is 753 01:03:03,71 --> 01:03:08,04 really just to brainstorm on what are the areas of interest that we would really 754 01:03:08,05 --> 01:03:10,20 like to have incorporated into the R.F.P. 755 01:03:10,37 --> 01:03:13,37 And things that came up in the past obviously were customer rates 756 01:03:13,63 --> 01:03:17,92 a preference for local processing and local jobs what are the materials that are 757 01:03:17,93 --> 01:03:20,07 accepted by the facility you know we for 758 01:03:20,08 --> 01:03:25,20 a period time could not do what strength cardboard we can do egg cartons plastic 759 01:03:25,21 --> 01:03:29,72 bags has obviously been you know some materials of discussion but as we move for 760 01:03:29,73 --> 01:03:32,95 the future there's going to be more materials as well so I think there's some local 761 01:03:32,96 --> 01:03:37,22 discussion that has to occur on what are the base materials that we want to have 762 01:03:37,23 --> 01:03:42,33 accepted by this facility and what are potential future materials. Performance 763 01:03:42,34 --> 01:03:45,18 standards and goals that are community feel are important for 764 01:03:45,90 --> 01:03:50,37 a business to meet and that's processing and receiving you know public funds and 765 01:03:50,38 --> 01:03:55,93 rate payer funds to process potentially. Recyclables in this area there was 766 01:03:55,94 --> 01:04:00,47 discussion about living wage or a floor level of wage not necessarily 767 01:04:00,48 --> 01:04:06,77 a complete living wage analysis but some floor that wanted to be established what 768 01:04:06,78 --> 01:04:12,65 is this potential business is role in public education and outreach. And then what 769 01:04:12,66 --> 01:04:17,28 we talk about is residual percentages allowed in right now we have five percent 770 01:04:17,29 --> 01:04:19,33 residual and it's basically when 771 01:04:19,34 --> 01:04:24,15 a processor receives all of our recyclables they process the recyclables and 772 01:04:24,16 --> 01:04:28,63 sometimes garbage gets mixed in and all that surprising but there are some 773 01:04:28,64 --> 01:04:33,85 materials that they can not recycle right now we have that at five percent in our 774 01:04:33,86 --> 01:04:38,00 current contract with solid waste of bullets but it's just something for us to I 775 01:04:38,01 --> 01:04:38,50 think have 776 01:04:38,51 --> 01:04:43,51 a community discussion about the process or can't always control that it's got to 777 01:04:43,52 --> 01:04:43,60 be 778 01:04:43,61 --> 01:04:48,54 a combination of working with the hall or working with you know in our case the city 779 01:04:48,55 --> 01:04:53,84 of Arcadia and the processor is that really the comes down to public education and 780 01:04:53,85 --> 01:04:58,17 what are people putting in their totes but I think we all share responsibility in 781 01:04:58,18 --> 01:05:01,84 that in this particular who's ever processing our recyclables who would like to 782 01:05:01,85 --> 01:05:07,45 share in that as well and I'm sure there's many others in terms of ideas in areas 783 01:05:07,46 --> 01:05:11,81 of interest that we would like to discuss at least considering for the ire of P. 784 01:05:11,82 --> 01:05:17,56 Process. So the idea is that we would have these public meetings we would receive 785 01:05:17,57 --> 01:05:22,03 public input we would meet as an agency staff and try to develop an R.F.P. 786 01:05:22,33 --> 01:05:26,98 That encompasses the common interests of all of the member agencies that would be 787 01:05:27,50 --> 01:05:32,53 we would allocate tonnage towards this recycling facility. And then we would 788 01:05:32,54 --> 01:05:32,90 develop 789 01:05:32,91 --> 01:05:37,16 a rating system for proposals and then those are peas and that rating system would 790 01:05:37,17 --> 01:05:41,10 come back to each of our councils and boards for review and ultimately 791 01:05:41,11 --> 01:05:46,20 a. We will at some point in that process we would have to if we wanted to go with 792 01:05:46,21 --> 01:05:51,52 a regional facility we are all going to have to commit tonnage to that process so 793 01:05:51,53 --> 01:05:55,71 sort of concurrent with this we would be developing an M O U that would be signed 794 01:05:55,72 --> 01:06:01,03 by each age agency directing flow control for the recycle materials it seems 795 01:06:01,04 --> 01:06:05,46 logical that that's going to flow through aged may but really everything is up for 796 01:06:05,47 --> 01:06:09,04 discussion at this point I mean this is very very early in the process and that's 797 01:06:09,05 --> 01:06:13,04 why we're bringing it to you now we would then release it our P. 798 01:06:13,05 --> 01:06:17,94 We would review in rate them and then we would review the results with each of the 799 01:06:17,95 --> 01:06:21,49 agencies as well and then ultimately somebody is going to award 800 01:06:21,50 --> 01:06:24,04 a contract again that would likely be 801 01:06:24,05 --> 01:06:29,19 a May but they said B M A Board hasn't even talked about this item I don't think in 802 01:06:29,20 --> 01:06:31,77 terms of an agenda item yet so it's 803 01:06:31,78 --> 01:06:36,31 a little premature for us to say that and then the good news I mean really in 804 01:06:36,32 --> 01:06:40,11 starting this process early is that we have some flexibility when those services 805 01:06:40,12 --> 01:06:44,50 need to start the contract with solid waste of will it is up in September of two 806 01:06:44,51 --> 01:06:46,65 thousand and sixteen we do have 807 01:06:46,66 --> 01:06:52,02 a six month out clause of that contract so we could start services you know I would 808 01:06:52,03 --> 01:06:56,47 say as early as January of two thousand and fourteen but no later probably than 809 01:06:56,48 --> 01:07:03,00 July twenty sixth seen. So in terms of decisions tonight all we're really looking 810 01:07:03,01 --> 01:07:07,15 for at this point is are you interested in moving forward with an R.F.P. 811 01:07:07,16 --> 01:07:13,92 Process combining our tonnage with our regional partners. Allowing staff time 812 01:07:13,93 --> 01:07:19,11 to invest in both the public input sessions as well as the development of our P. 813 01:07:19,60 --> 01:07:23,90 And if you are interested in moving forward with this at this time do you want to 814 01:07:23,91 --> 01:07:27,41 identify any of sort of your counsels are P. 815 01:07:27,42 --> 01:07:32,32 Goals that are real priorities that you just one stated up front so that's what 816 01:07:32,33 --> 01:07:36,92 I'll turn it over to Marc to see if there's anything that I missed. You covered it 817 01:07:36,93 --> 01:07:43,88 very well. Or I think. The fact is we do have we do have some time but 818 01:07:43,89 --> 01:07:47,91 twenty six teams not that far far off. I mean there's 819 01:07:47,92 --> 01:07:52,93 a chance perhaps we could extend the agreement and and to clarify the city of 820 01:07:52,94 --> 01:07:56,48 arcade it's really not party to any contract with solid waste of well it's we're 821 01:07:56,49 --> 01:08:02,55 just delivering there but we aren't we haven't contracted with them per se so 822 01:08:03,00 --> 01:08:08,64 through each of the M A We are sending our material there. And that could be 823 01:08:08,65 --> 01:08:12,54 a viable option perhaps at the end of an R.F.P. 824 01:08:12,73 --> 01:08:18,14 Process to if we rejected all offers we could perhaps continue with that as a as 825 01:08:18,15 --> 01:08:23,99 a backstop too but really I think it's. It's going to take some time for all of 826 01:08:24,00 --> 01:08:29,21 them. May member agencies to work and craft an R.F.P. 827 01:08:29,22 --> 01:08:31,77 Although there was one before so we haven't learned 828 01:08:31,78 --> 01:08:38,05 a lot in the process and should be able to do it but it will take some staff time 829 01:08:38,06 --> 01:08:41,42 that's why we're coming to you tonight to make sure you want us to commit that 830 01:08:41,43 --> 01:08:47,39 stuff time for this process and and the critical things that. 831 01:08:48,49 --> 01:08:55,03 Karen mentioned are the criteria for scoring and rating responses to an R.F.P. 832 01:08:55,49 --> 01:09:01,52 Because and wait waiting factors that's not always just cost but cost is 833 01:09:01,53 --> 01:09:07,83 a very important factor in moving forward so I think. Really to me it doesn't 834 01:09:07,84 --> 01:09:13,51 matter who owns what right now or where which unity on to anything when it's time 835 01:09:13,52 --> 01:09:18,41 to consider the next step because we don't have and only just 836 01:09:18,43 --> 01:09:20,01 a couple more years of 837 01:09:21,66 --> 01:09:26,48 a fixed location known that we can take our material so we have to be thinking 838 01:09:26,50 --> 01:09:29,23 ahead several years especially if 839 01:09:29,78 --> 01:09:34,01 a new entity is going to permit and cite and develop 840 01:09:34,01 --> 01:09:40,90 a processing facility. Somewhere else or locally or not it's just 841 01:09:40,91 --> 01:09:44,14 takes time to get those things up and running and so that would be 842 01:09:44,15 --> 01:09:50,46 a prudent thing markets you know are improving too that's another good signal on 843 01:09:50,47 --> 01:09:56,76 the horizon for for the recyclable materials so hopefully we can hit hit that 844 01:09:56,77 --> 01:09:58,27 timing in 845 01:09:58,28 --> 01:10:03,90 a positive way to. And I'll let you know that Patrick Owen is here from humble 846 01:10:03,91 --> 01:10:06,100 Waste Management Authority and I will put him on the spot but if they have any 847 01:10:07,01 --> 01:10:08,71 questions they did want to make sure they had 848 01:10:08,72 --> 01:10:10,97 a percentage of here tonight tantrum for you. 849 01:10:15,64 --> 01:10:22,42 Thank you initial counsel questions or comment. If there's any I just want to 850 01:10:22,43 --> 01:10:28,12 provide an opportunity if there's any or any technical questions for us to sit. 851 01:10:29,62 --> 01:10:33,35 In the contract that says we can have up to five percent residual percentages I 852 01:10:33,36 --> 01:10:39,38 wondered where we came in like we had the five percent or so it was so it's the 853 01:10:39,39 --> 01:10:41,18 last time I checked in actually they've got 854 01:10:41,22 --> 01:10:44,29 a few representatives here in the back as well I think they've come in between 855 01:10:44,58 --> 01:10:46,26 about four a little below and 856 01:10:46,27 --> 01:10:51,04 a little above four throughout the period that we've brought material to them and 857 01:10:51,05 --> 01:10:55,35 it clarify director Andre mentioned in terms of how the contractual flow works 858 01:10:55,36 --> 01:10:58,84 right now when I'm a completed the R.F.P. 859 01:10:58,85 --> 01:11:04,78 The last time with you know input from all of us at that point only the cities of 860 01:11:04,79 --> 01:11:09,49 the Rica and humble County were interested at that point in signing the ammo you to 861 01:11:09,50 --> 01:11:16,25 direct flow control to that contract at that time our council directed continued 862 01:11:16,26 --> 01:11:17,82 flow to a C.R.C. 863 01:11:18,15 --> 01:11:24,24 And at the point that. Operations we basically called and talked to me and solid 864 01:11:24,25 --> 01:11:27,94 waste of Willits and they said you know you need to move quickly and we'll just 865 01:11:27,95 --> 01:11:32,12 start to accept your material until such time that your community your community 866 01:11:32,13 --> 01:11:36,38 can have this conversation again so they have continued to accept our material it 867 01:11:36,39 --> 01:11:36,77 has been 868 01:11:36,78 --> 01:11:41,35 a very smooth transition we were very thankful for that we were not forced to sign 869 01:11:41,36 --> 01:11:43,75 on to them or you with each time you may nor into 870 01:11:43,76 --> 01:11:47,87 a specific contract with solid waste it will it but again that also leaves us 871 01:11:47,88 --> 01:11:51,13 a little bit vulnerable and we do as I know this council has wanted to have 872 01:11:51,14 --> 01:11:57,30 a long term solution that we can have in place. All right and again just 873 01:11:57,64 --> 01:12:02,75 a line I want to express my gratitude to me for that smooth transition I mean I 874 01:12:02,76 --> 01:12:08,72 think that was. Some thoughts but I think that and some things I would like to 875 01:12:08,73 --> 01:12:13,80 suggest that I thought maybe if we had public comment Absolutely I'm going to take 876 01:12:13,81 --> 01:12:17,16 public comment I wanted to give the council an opportunity to ask any technical 877 01:12:17,17 --> 01:12:23,57 question so if there are any other question all right so at this point open this up 878 01:12:23,58 --> 01:12:27,20 for public comment any member of the public that would like to speak please come 879 01:12:27,21 --> 01:12:33,71 forward and also at the time or three minutes. Old button on would you please. 880 01:12:34,87 --> 01:12:38,84 Chuck what they were resource recovery one thing I want to mention one thing on the 881 01:12:38,85 --> 01:12:42,61 paint care program I'm really proud we're going to start that but we haven't got 882 01:12:42,62 --> 01:12:49,03 the container sites yet and so it's not actually in place yet so as soon as they 883 01:12:49,04 --> 01:12:51,44 get there I'll make sure I come out with an announcement and we'll do some 884 01:12:51,45 --> 01:12:53,79 advertising on that just 885 01:12:53,80 --> 01:12:57,94 a couple things I want to bring up you know I have to come and talk to you about 886 01:12:57,95 --> 01:13:04,32 test making our processing center in port tonight we put that facility in hoping to 887 01:13:04,33 --> 01:13:04,94 be able to 888 01:13:04,95 --> 01:13:11,95 a large in large at the silly if needed to handle the county the whole. During 889 01:13:11,96 --> 01:13:17,09 the strategic plan we saw that there kid a facility was going to be 890 01:13:17,43 --> 01:13:22,11 a very geographical spot if we wanted to go to 891 01:13:22,12 --> 01:13:29,09 a regional recycling area. With the price that came down we thought it 892 01:13:29,10 --> 01:13:34,20 was something that we couldn't pass up. We are now working on the facility we are 893 01:13:34,21 --> 01:13:36,83 redoing the motors there is some 894 01:13:36,84 --> 01:13:41,13 a part of the building that has to be fixed we're working on some machinery getting 895 01:13:41,14 --> 01:13:47,90 it back up in place. We're looking forward to putting that 896 01:13:47,91 --> 01:13:52,69 facility back to the use it was made to and that is for recycling for the humble 897 01:13:52,70 --> 01:13:58,31 County we're looking forward to bringing back twelve to fourteen employees. To run 898 01:13:58,32 --> 01:14:02,75 that facility which means about two point five million dollars in base payroll we 899 01:14:02,76 --> 01:14:07,82 think that's important to keep our recyclables and our. Local people employed. 900 01:14:11,17 --> 01:14:16,45 We had like for the Board to consider until they are P S but out and put into place 901 01:14:16,45 --> 01:14:22,44 . We are looking for material to start running the facility we had like to look at 902 01:14:22,45 --> 01:14:23,68 possibly a Mo U. 903 01:14:24,21 --> 01:14:27,77 For you to start bringing their your recyclables so we can start putting the 904 01:14:27,83 --> 01:14:34,01 facility back into use. It's important that it will be contacting all the cities 905 01:14:34,02 --> 01:14:35,05 that do not have 906 01:14:35,06 --> 01:14:41,51 a contract. That we would like to inquire about receiving the number of materials 907 01:14:41,83 --> 01:14:48,25 that we would pay eight dollars ten flat rate and. We'd also be willing to put 908 01:14:48,26 --> 01:14:52,59 a performance pond out there whether it be under an M. O. U. Or under an R.F.P. 909 01:14:52,59 --> 01:14:58,84 . I think our record and our and recycling center here and that we opened up it's 910 01:14:58,85 --> 01:15:05,32 clean always very well mannered they look forward to greeting the people there ia 911 01:15:05,33 --> 01:15:10,56 round the facility is clean and. Hopefully you guys will consider an M.O. 912 01:15:10,57 --> 01:15:13,10 You at this time thank you thank you. 913 01:15:17,82 --> 01:15:20,14 So anyone else who would like to speak on the side I'm. 914 01:15:33,25 --> 01:15:40,07 Council members My name is Jerry Ward's old ways to well it's. I just want to begin 915 01:15:40,08 --> 01:15:46,60 by saying I think I was on record three years ago and we were before this council's 916 01:15:46,61 --> 01:15:52,93 wells the authority county commission that. The five years would be the time period 917 01:15:52,94 --> 01:15:59,90 where we would take care of the materials for the. Agencies but processing 918 01:15:59,91 --> 01:16:06,72 would have to come back to me and I think that time is about to happen and in the 919 01:16:06,73 --> 01:16:11,35 meantime we'll continue to take the material from Arcade as well as the other 920 01:16:11,61 --> 01:16:16,57 communities that did not sign up for the M O U and continue to process those 921 01:16:17,34 --> 01:16:19,57 materials now of course we have 922 01:16:20,05 --> 01:16:25,24 a contract till two thousand and sixteen in this process may take. Less time may 923 01:16:25,25 --> 01:16:31,27 take more time if it does need to be extended beyond two thousand and sixteen we 924 01:16:31,28 --> 01:16:37,49 would entertain extending at that time period for you as well as you know we we pay 925 01:16:37,49 --> 01:16:43,86 . The authority which is money going to the member eight agencies 926 01:16:44,84 --> 01:16:45,06 on 927 01:16:45,07 --> 01:16:50,13 a quarterly basis and that number is gone up and down but never below eight dollars 928 01:16:50,33 --> 01:16:53,14 currently as Karen said we're paying 929 01:16:53,15 --> 01:16:57,95 a twenty seven I think we paid as high as twelve dollars So as the markets go up 930 01:16:59,00 --> 01:17:01,17 the arcade community is going to get 931 01:17:01,35 --> 01:17:06,28 a benefit of that as well so that's something I think is important in the past is 932 01:17:06,29 --> 01:17:09,92 you know you were paying to get your processing done and here it's been 933 01:17:09,93 --> 01:17:15,82 a revenue so we we hope that. You've appreciated dad appreciate the fact we've been 934 01:17:15,83 --> 01:17:22,08 taking your material the last. Several months without without an agreement we're 935 01:17:22,09 --> 01:17:27,43 not here to say. We're no longer in arrested even if you consider an R.F.P. 936 01:17:27,44 --> 01:17:32,78 Process or whether you're considering another another option but we'll take it as 937 01:17:32,79 --> 01:17:39,02 long as you want to give it to us and your your residual. Is overall it's four 938 01:17:39,03 --> 01:17:45,56 percent but I can't say directly who is responsible for the four percent because 939 01:17:45,57 --> 01:17:51,36 we're getting it from Blue the Humboldt State University the city of Utica and the 940 01:17:51,37 --> 01:17:57,28 county areas so you're all doing a good job and continue it so it does have 941 01:17:57,56 --> 01:18:04,16 a bearing on. The haulers keeping the haulers with their their information to 942 01:18:04,17 --> 01:18:08,50 the public or their customers to try to keep it as clean humble Waste Management 943 01:18:08,51 --> 01:18:12,60 Authority does an excellent job of cleaning up before it goes into our trailers so 944 01:18:13,04 --> 01:18:17,74 the systems work you know real well and we continue to take your material thank you 945 01:18:18,43 --> 01:18:21,19 and we will be interested in participating in our of P. 946 01:18:21,20 --> 01:18:24,17 Process when that time comes Thank you. 947 01:18:27,93 --> 01:18:33,26 Mayor City Council My name's Emma Jones I provided this is advisory services to 948 01:18:33,27 --> 01:18:36,83 solid waste with us for years and years I'm a C.P.A. 949 01:18:37,32 --> 01:18:41,94 By training and profession and I had the pleasure of stand before you during the 950 01:18:41,95 --> 01:18:48,71 last hour of people and appreciated your. Absolute dedication to 951 01:18:49,21 --> 01:18:54,80 the city and the citizens of the city and we recognize in that process that we 952 01:18:54,81 --> 01:18:58,06 didn't always agree on what the best outcome would be but it was 953 01:18:58,07 --> 01:19:04,15 a very civil process and the the best part of the public choice process gave out in 954 01:19:04,16 --> 01:19:09,77 that process and although you chose not to sign and mail you we were lucky enough 955 01:19:09,78 --> 01:19:14,52 to be able to provide you services and demonstrate the cellar way so well it has 956 01:19:14,53 --> 01:19:19,18 a service attitude and just like to solve problems. The one thing I'd like to say 957 01:19:19,19 --> 01:19:23,54 is that the process that you're looking at tonight in the consideration of another 958 01:19:23,55 --> 01:19:30,38 hour of the. And as Jerry said makes sense we never thought that we would 959 01:19:31,13 --> 01:19:37,73 necessarily take humble County materials forever and there was zero is the 960 01:19:37,74 --> 01:19:41,31 understanding that they would be another look at what the best solution is at the 961 01:19:41,32 --> 01:19:42,19 time there wasn't 962 01:19:42,23 --> 01:19:47,41 a short term solution and now your staff is saying let's start early the sake 963 01:19:47,42 --> 01:19:53,22 a look at my one caution would be Do not rush the process the delicate dance of 964 01:19:53,23 --> 01:19:58,59 coordinating the needs in the desires of multiple governmental jurisdictions is 965 01:19:58,63 --> 01:20:03,98 absolutely complicated everybody acting in good faith because to some degree there 966 01:20:03,99 --> 01:20:10,05 may be different needs there may be different values and that is the one thing that 967 01:20:10,39 --> 01:20:14,63 will take some time and attention so that you can reach 968 01:20:14,75 --> 01:20:20,33 a good solution as staff pointed out in terms of the economies of scale it would be 969 01:20:20,34 --> 01:20:24,99 better to keep all the materials together in one place and solve the problem for 970 01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:29,60 everybody collectively but to get that to happen the devil is always in the details 971 01:20:29,61 --> 01:20:34,19 and we saw it all in the process the last time and everybody was doing what they 972 01:20:34,20 --> 01:20:38,79 should do they were all expressing their feelings and telling you what their values 973 01:20:38,80 --> 01:20:45,01 were so I would just suggest listen to everybody listen to the other 974 01:20:45,02 --> 01:20:51,25 jurisdictions give value everybody's opinion and try to find some collective 975 01:20:51,26 --> 01:20:56,24 consensus that will work for the ratepayer because in the end other than to 976 01:20:56,25 --> 01:21:00,66 preserve the resources so that they are real used the rate payer is the person who 977 01:21:00,67 --> 01:21:05,48 pays the bill and should be protected and you if I do share responsibility you act 978 01:21:05,49 --> 01:21:11,28 on their behalf and we would like to be part of the solution and we will be here to 979 01:21:11,29 --> 01:21:16,74 provide an option to you at any step in this process and we hope it's successful in 980 01:21:16,75 --> 01:21:21,25 the way that everybody is very very happy with it so thank you very much thank you 981 01:21:21,25 --> 01:21:21,25 . 982 01:21:31,15 --> 01:21:36,23 Good evening Chris Mobley over supposal. Last time you had R.P. 983 01:21:36,23 --> 01:21:42,93 . The city of Arcadia. Pretty much said no we're not going to go and 984 01:21:42,97 --> 01:21:49,73 through. The way things went to everything came down that it ended up going to to 985 01:21:49,74 --> 01:21:53,64 well it's you were going to send it there but we had to and that's what you ended 986 01:21:53,65 --> 01:22:00,34 up having to do you thought desperately for that facility out in Samoa I know the 987 01:22:00,45 --> 01:22:05,96 waste matter with or is akin to buying it the other agencies all were talking about 988 01:22:05,97 --> 01:22:09,79 getting together to buy it and because it is such 989 01:22:09,80 --> 01:22:16,74 a vital. Interest that's why we stepped up and did that we put 990 01:22:16,75 --> 01:22:20,52 it out there to you just like we did with our kid 991 01:22:20,53 --> 01:22:25,04 a recycling center here in town there wasn't something here for you we stepped up 992 01:22:25,21 --> 01:22:30,77 to make sure that we brought jobs back same thing with this place we're gonna bring 993 01:22:30,78 --> 01:22:35,74 it back one way or another and make it work the way it was supposed to the way it 994 01:22:35,75 --> 01:22:42,43 should be tomorrow I have. The man that actually sold all that equipment and he's 995 01:22:42,44 --> 01:22:44,59 going to be here it's Mark ten o'clock we're going to give him 996 01:22:44,60 --> 01:22:48,77 a tour of what we're going to do and I would fight any person any of the members of 997 01:22:48,78 --> 01:22:53,81 the board or staff to come out there and see what kind of condition it's in because 998 01:22:53,82 --> 01:22:55,33 it's not great there's going to be 999 01:22:55,34 --> 01:23:01,62 a lot of money pumped into that place to get it back up and so if you are valuable 1000 01:23:01,63 --> 01:23:05,33 please come out and we'll walk you through it and you can see what's going to 1001 01:23:05,34 --> 01:23:10,53 happen and how we're going to update it to make it right to where it's going to be 1002 01:23:10,54 --> 01:23:15,71 a vital facility for this area thank you. Thank you. 1003 01:23:24,40 --> 01:23:29,31 Hello Carol so Dave Mr from Arcadia I didn't really come here for this item but. 1004 01:23:31,93 --> 01:23:32,88 I guess I feel 1005 01:23:32,89 --> 01:23:37,52 a profound sense of sadness. You know I feel like we should let's have 1006 01:23:37,53 --> 01:23:40,98 a moment of silence for the Arcadia community recycling center 1007 01:23:46,35 --> 01:23:52,44 Awkward isn't that it was very an awkward process and it was really sad to see what 1008 01:23:52,45 --> 01:23:59,07 happened it was. It was sad to see egos get in the way of good decision 1009 01:23:59,08 --> 01:24:05,14 making on all sides but now we have to move forward and there are certainly some 1010 01:24:05,15 --> 01:24:09,45 good hearted people out here who are helping us to move forward and I think the 1011 01:24:09,46 --> 01:24:13,80 best thing that we can do is look at keeping as local as we can possibly keep it 1012 01:24:14,48 --> 01:24:21,47 keeping. Well paying jobs here in the county keeping it local and keeping some 1013 01:24:21,48 --> 01:24:24,32 sort of local control out of having 1014 01:24:24,37 --> 01:24:29,21 a good recycling center that actually deals with all the materials that we have for 1015 01:24:29,22 --> 01:24:33,89 it so that the citizens are served in some way the way the ideals of the recycling 1016 01:24:33,90 --> 01:24:38,39 center were over all those years and I still think it's 1017 01:24:38,40 --> 01:24:43,58 a shame it turned out the way it did. But as I say we have to move forward and I 1018 01:24:43,59 --> 01:24:49,66 just hope the council will consider keeping it local keeping good paying jobs right 1019 01:24:49,67 --> 01:24:54,31 here locally and. Making sure that we do 1020 01:24:54,32 --> 01:24:58,31 a good job with our recycling the way we were leaders in the past we need to get 1021 01:24:58,32 --> 01:25:03,68 back into that position of leadership and we need to also work on expanding the 1022 01:25:03,69 --> 01:25:08,45 sort of recycling we can do to the food waste and to anything else that we can do 1023 01:25:08,46 --> 01:25:11,39 locally in terms of once again paving 1024 01:25:11,40 --> 01:25:17,89 a path for future recycling Thank you. Thank you. 1025 01:25:20,35 --> 01:25:27,12 Anyone else want to comment on the side of you know right saying no no close public 1026 01:25:27,13 --> 01:25:33,91 comma and turn it back to the council. Today I went 1027 01:25:34,25 --> 01:25:37,33 to. A briefing as 1028 01:25:37,34 --> 01:25:43,86 a as your alternate for what waste management and so anyway it seems most 1029 01:25:43,87 --> 01:25:49,69 appropriate to continue talking about recycling and garbage today this evening so 1030 01:25:50,34 --> 01:25:54,38 tall chief who runs the recycling center for Humboldt State University was am 1031 01:25:54,45 --> 01:26:01,28 unable to come tonight. I just I have his letter to all of us and when I 1032 01:26:01,29 --> 01:26:04,62 read that you know it makes me think about what some of the things that we're not 1033 01:26:04,63 --> 01:26:09,78 doing and that I really want us to consider He says it's really important to work 1034 01:26:09,79 --> 01:26:10,58 jointly towards 1035 01:26:10,59 --> 01:26:14,90 a regional system for processing those materials which will keep at least some of 1036 01:26:14,91 --> 01:26:20,08 the value of those materials circulating locally but he also mentions in here that 1037 01:26:20,09 --> 01:26:25,61 he thinks it's really important for us to look at how to reuse those materials 1038 01:26:25,62 --> 01:26:30,46 locally and not have everything shipped out one of the things we discussed is how 1039 01:26:30,47 --> 01:26:31,80 we wanted to put together 1040 01:26:31,81 --> 01:26:36,12 a committee to talk about zero waste and so it seems likely aren't in that much of 1041 01:26:36,13 --> 01:26:39,95 a hurry that we should really pull that committee together and get their advice get 1042 01:26:39,96 --> 01:26:43,26 their comments and see if we can meet with them more often than once 1043 01:26:43,27 --> 01:26:49,87 a month and accelerate it and see what we can do. You know we know that the price 1044 01:26:49,88 --> 01:26:53,93 of energy and the climate change impacts are really important as far as it affects 1045 01:26:53,94 --> 01:27:00,70 collection and also the processing and market development and marking to market 1046 01:27:00,71 --> 01:27:05,39 development has been put on the back burner for quite some time and there was one 1047 01:27:05,40 --> 01:27:12,31 item. In the contracts looking at contracts today for May and on their sheet 1048 01:27:12,52 --> 01:27:13,12 that they have 1049 01:27:13,13 --> 01:27:19,74 a really cycling market development zone in MINISTER administrate or who is hardly 1050 01:27:19,74 --> 01:27:23,45 . Has any hours at all and I think that's 1051 01:27:23,46 --> 01:27:27,34 a really shame because I think we really need to look at those things and we're 1052 01:27:27,35 --> 01:27:31,39 getting lost in not thinking about how we can develop some of our products that we 1053 01:27:31,40 --> 01:27:37,38 have here into some other kind of reusable materials and I would like to see that 1054 01:27:37,91 --> 01:27:42,10 well my recommendation would be to figure out how to actually fund this recycling 1055 01:27:42,11 --> 01:27:46,12 market development Soni administrator at the H. W. 1056 01:27:46,13 --> 01:27:51,40 Me level look at you because you'll be the voting person for that but to make sure 1057 01:27:51,41 --> 01:27:56,80 that we think about what we can do to incorporate and reduce waste like really 1058 01:27:56,81 --> 01:27:59,96 going towards zero waste and reuse and repair 1059 01:27:59,97 --> 01:28:04,80 a new product development in which we know includes composting which were doing 1060 01:28:04,81 --> 01:28:10,13 really well with our composting and that we just can't limit our focus on just 1061 01:28:10,14 --> 01:28:15,34 collecting and shipping it away and then it's no longer here for us and I and so 1062 01:28:15,35 --> 01:28:20,55 that would be what I my interest would be is to make sure in what that we take 1063 01:28:20,56 --> 01:28:27,16 a little time that we get this committee together we see what we can get been in 1064 01:28:27,17 --> 01:28:28,98 a maybe a two month period or 1065 01:28:28,99 --> 01:28:34,81 a three month period. And use their recommendations and their ideas we know that 1066 01:28:34,82 --> 01:28:39,48 zero waste Humboldt is in operation they haven't in turn they're doing all kinds of 1067 01:28:39,49 --> 01:28:45,91 different things tonight there at an H W may strategic planning meeting and that we 1068 01:28:45,92 --> 01:28:50,12 come from that point of view because I think that's the point of view that Dave is 1069 01:28:50,13 --> 01:28:54,20 mentioning that we should be arcade or we should be looking at those things and 1070 01:28:54,59 --> 01:29:00,01 definitely what kind of. Jobs we can create and what other alternatives there are 1071 01:29:00,02 --> 01:29:03,45 but if we don't have someone that's out there figuring it out and working with it 1072 01:29:03,46 --> 01:29:08,47 and being able to spend time talking to people and putting that together and using 1073 01:29:08,70 --> 01:29:13,59 their knowledge in their research then we are going to get very far so those are my 1074 01:29:13,60 --> 01:29:16,91 comments and I agree that we would like to see 1075 01:29:16,92 --> 01:29:22,00 a recycling come back from being localized or. At least we're going to deal with 1076 01:29:22,01 --> 01:29:25,81 something they create something before we ship it all out and we know we'll be 1077 01:29:25,82 --> 01:29:29,54 shipping things out no matter what but that's that would be 1078 01:29:29,55 --> 01:29:32,15 a focus I would like to see us really make 1079 01:29:32,20 --> 01:29:37,17 a decision and then look at the R P and see what other information we can give all 1080 01:29:37,18 --> 01:29:43,85 the other cities and moving forward on that thank you for their 1081 01:29:43,86 --> 01:29:48,91 comments below I wondered just with the folks that are involved in the negotiations 1082 01:29:49,14 --> 01:29:55,08 is this list of concerns shared with all the agencies. And even the way you filled 1083 01:29:55,09 --> 01:29:58,38 them out I felt like it's just it's it's 1084 01:29:58,39 --> 01:30:05,33 a good list and I wondered. If there are as openly discussed 1085 01:30:05,34 --> 01:30:06,62 amongst everyone or is this 1086 01:30:06,63 --> 01:30:12,22 a common list or says like just our cadence list or. The list has been shared with 1087 01:30:12,23 --> 01:30:16,63 all agency staff I mean the agreement when we met is an agency staff is was that 1088 01:30:16,64 --> 01:30:18,56 Arcadia was going to go first so I would draft 1089 01:30:18,57 --> 01:30:21,92 a staff report and everyone could tear everything off of that I mean again it we 1090 01:30:21,93 --> 01:30:22,33 just want 1091 01:30:22,34 --> 01:30:26,41 a consistent message I think out there more than anything but the list really was 1092 01:30:26,42 --> 01:30:28,95 to be a beginning two minutes really was 1093 01:30:28,96 --> 01:30:31,97 a list of everything that came up during the last discussion an R.P. 1094 01:30:31,98 --> 01:30:35,45 Process and so that's a list that I think we'll use as 1095 01:30:35,46 --> 01:30:40,47 a starting point for our public input meetings but I do suspect that more ideas and 1096 01:30:40,48 --> 01:30:44,71 you know creative solutions to things will come up I mean one thing that I will say 1097 01:30:44,72 --> 01:30:49,36 is that you know the tonnage that we're talking about in terms of long term goals 1098 01:30:49,37 --> 01:30:55,41 of zero waste this tonnage is already being recycled You know so we're balancing 1099 01:30:55,42 --> 01:30:58,34 you know how much effort do you want to put into you know 1100 01:30:58,38 --> 01:31:03,61 a particular set of tonnage that is already into the recycling stream and over says 1101 01:31:03,62 --> 01:31:07,30 the creative ideas that will come out of our zero waste group you know in terms of 1102 01:31:07,31 --> 01:31:10,83 how do we start to capture new tonnage it's going to the landfill. 1103 01:31:17,52 --> 01:31:20,77 I think this is a partial list but it's a good it's a good starting point and it's 1104 01:31:21,33 --> 01:31:26,81 a lot of things we learned before. You know as we engage with the other agencies I 1105 01:31:26,82 --> 01:31:32,11 think you'll see some other things emerge such as. Some incentives in an R.F.P. 1106 01:31:32,12 --> 01:31:32,27 Or 1107 01:31:32,28 --> 01:31:37,04 a contract for an increased diversion I think you always want to build that in something 1108 01:31:37,45 --> 01:31:43,89 for materials that maybe aren't being recycled now so that we can. Capture them 1109 01:31:44,72 --> 01:31:47,69 in some facility somewhere in 1110 01:31:47,70 --> 01:31:52,48 a more formal way those things we've heard some of them and they'll be more carpet 1111 01:31:52,52 --> 01:31:58,99 roofing and that type stuff so I think creating an incentive in 1112 01:31:58,99 --> 01:32:04,90 a contract is always going to be something. Well we'll try to work with other 1113 01:32:04,92 --> 01:32:11,65 agencies to have incentive for increasing tonnage in diversion and not just 1114 01:32:11,66 --> 01:32:16,05 processing that the status quo or the current current amount because we're we are 1115 01:32:16,06 --> 01:32:20,29 at sixty six percent that's pretty good bonafide sixty six percent of them 1116 01:32:20,30 --> 01:32:26,63 a high baseline to that we when we started. But we need to go to zero. 1117 01:32:27,57 --> 01:32:33,65 First we need to get the seventy five eighty five. Yeah well and I agree with 1118 01:32:33,66 --> 01:32:39,62 council member Stillman. The marketing to market development we saw one 1119 01:32:39,63 --> 01:32:44,33 presentation when we were in the at the Local Government Commission meeting some 1120 01:32:44,37 --> 01:32:49,84 young entrepreneurs who I didn't quite follow it but I think they were working 1121 01:32:49,85 --> 01:32:50,83 close to a coffee shops 1122 01:32:50,84 --> 01:32:55,42 a lot of coffee waste and up composting that adding some mushroom compost and 1123 01:32:55,67 --> 01:32:56,13 another have 1124 01:32:56,14 --> 01:32:59,66 a product that they're selling at Home Depot and all these places you know this 1125 01:32:59,67 --> 01:33:05,59 little mushroom boxes. So I really want to encourage entrepreneurship Absolutely 1126 01:33:06,00 --> 01:33:12,23 and so I suppose that the way I'm feeling about this is I mean I would just said we 1127 01:33:12,24 --> 01:33:15,92 should just keep moving forward with these conversations I think it's good whether 1128 01:33:15,93 --> 01:33:17,42 we you know want to go into an M.O. 1129 01:33:17,43 --> 01:33:22,22 You I don't feel ready really to make that decision I generally lean towards 1130 01:33:22,23 --> 01:33:26,90 keeping stuff together and working together as much as possible although I want to 1131 01:33:26,91 --> 01:33:33,16 see us be as creative an entrepreneur as possible and to to hit the zero waste goal 1132 01:33:33,17 --> 01:33:38,61 would be fabulous so. So that's kind of where I'm thinking now assisting I 1133 01:33:38,62 --> 01:33:42,30 appreciate that you're bringing this forward to us early enough that we kind of can 1134 01:33:42,31 --> 01:33:46,65 just encourage you to kind of keep the conversations and keep getting deeper as we 1135 01:33:46,66 --> 01:33:52,61 understand it and then probably you know. Be able to make the best decision at some 1136 01:33:52,62 --> 01:33:59,54 point in time so. I'd go on I support the same comments here I say looking 1137 01:33:59,55 --> 01:34:00,48 at this list I think it's 1138 01:34:00,49 --> 01:34:05,84 a good start I think that you know some of these items here fall into 1139 01:34:05,85 --> 01:34:10,60 a sort of we're going to be more subject to regulatory compliance pieces too and 1140 01:34:10,61 --> 01:34:14,29 then there's going to be some inner jurisdictional wrangling going on between all 1141 01:34:14,30 --> 01:34:19,46 the players that are going to be involved here and the comments I think we're right 1142 01:34:19,47 --> 01:34:25,70 on with that. I think at the end of the day it's going to be the one to the 1143 01:34:26,08 --> 01:34:31,83 customer rates and the finding what kind of market opportunities there will be I 1144 01:34:31,84 --> 01:34:36,60 mean that's sort of why some some of what we got to where we were in some ways with 1145 01:34:36,61 --> 01:34:42,83 the market changing so radically quick so having that in the forefront I think 1146 01:34:42,84 --> 01:34:47,71 could be really critical I do think looking at the time frame for the P.C. 1147 01:34:48,28 --> 01:34:54,01 It's pretty ambitious given all the entities you've got at the table there so I 1148 01:34:54,02 --> 01:34:55,33 mean maybe staff has 1149 01:34:55,34 --> 01:35:02,17 a better sense of that but. It just seems like. I know it's not hard and fast and 1150 01:35:02,18 --> 01:35:08,15 that's just the projected schedule so but I think spending the time to map it out 1151 01:35:08,16 --> 01:35:12,100 and being really strategic about it would be worth the time and effort so I support 1152 01:35:13,01 --> 01:35:19,86 moving forward with. Its member Winkler. One area which was 1153 01:35:19,87 --> 01:35:25,10 a major point of contention in the last hour if he was pricing what type of pricing 1154 01:35:25,11 --> 01:35:29,70 for him to use whether it's going to be fixed price whether it's going to what 1155 01:35:29,71 --> 01:35:36,37 extent it's going to be market based on the price is. Acceptance and 1156 01:35:36,50 --> 01:35:43,35 and the quality of. Scrap materials and there it was. 1157 01:35:44,66 --> 01:35:51,13 I think there were two ways of submitting its last time and by default it seemed 1158 01:35:51,14 --> 01:35:54,96 only only one of those was used and so I think it's important to be 1159 01:35:54,97 --> 01:35:58,01 a lot clearer about what pricing for 1160 01:35:58,02 --> 01:36:04,98 a new formula or for me was that. It would want to use it 1161 01:36:04,99 --> 01:36:11,13 or if it had more discussion of that as far as. 1162 01:36:14,32 --> 01:36:18,60 Additional material some some things that have been problematic that we have 1163 01:36:18,64 --> 01:36:25,63 a. Sort of electronics recycling 1164 01:36:25,64 --> 01:36:31,44 days but we don't have any kind of as far as I know recycling for other types of of 1165 01:36:31,99 --> 01:36:38,07 appliances that are not electronics. Or something it's 1166 01:36:38,08 --> 01:36:39,07 a large It's 1167 01:36:39,11 --> 01:36:46,40 a I think that's wrong Michael is that it is wrong. I'm 1168 01:36:46,41 --> 01:36:48,18 saying you're not at that microphone so I'm 1169 01:36:48,19 --> 01:36:55,14 a bit on what would I get can I say you're welcome yeah so yes they do are recycle 1170 01:36:55,15 --> 01:36:59,56 large appliances they don't want their free on in the refrigerator you have to pull 1171 01:36:59,57 --> 01:37:04,89 that first and they are recycled about your stove. They have the course they have 1172 01:37:04,90 --> 01:37:09,47 the electronic that you're mentioning but they call it white recycling when it's 1173 01:37:09,55 --> 01:37:13,91 white goods because those year appliances and they do have that you do about 1174 01:37:14,57 --> 01:37:19,02 a small appliances that are not electronics. When you say small What do you hoster 1175 01:37:19,03 --> 01:37:24,59 so hairdryers toasters things like that. I would imagine it's rather all recyclable 1176 01:37:25,25 --> 01:37:30,25 even if you're saying the recycled I mean is that Bilbo in the curve. Not at the 1177 01:37:30,26 --> 01:37:34,37 curbside and that's you know there's two parts that we have this election time that 1178 01:37:34,44 --> 01:37:37,31 are you. Know there's 1179 01:37:37,32 --> 01:37:41,95 a drop off they cut the cord off if you've ever gone to get rid of your things that 1180 01:37:41,96 --> 01:37:47,21 have cords on him like your vacuum cleaner or whatever they cut the cord off that 1181 01:37:47,22 --> 01:37:51,73 goes somewhere not too sure where and then you have the rest of it that gets 1182 01:37:51,74 --> 01:37:57,16 recycled so it's they have they do that also with your toaster and your hair dryer 1183 01:37:57,17 --> 01:38:01,68 and it H. That a Chevy with director Andre. You are in the middle of 1184 01:38:01,69 --> 01:38:07,57 a sentence so that they step. Drop off in Eureka but you know River disposal at the 1185 01:38:07,61 --> 01:38:11,94 site here in arcade is also accepting like that in small appliances and other 1186 01:38:11,95 --> 01:38:16,78 problems things like I would if it's relevant to recycling but things like cultures 1187 01:38:16,79 --> 01:38:23,78 and furniture. That is something different that's not it yes I know 1188 01:38:23,79 --> 01:38:27,59 that's an issue for us in Arcadia I'm sure it's an issue for other cities to where 1189 01:38:27,60 --> 01:38:30,90 people leave their furniture outside their cardboard box this was all the clothes 1190 01:38:30,91 --> 01:38:34,78 they don't want to wear anymore or the books that they don't want either those all 1191 01:38:34,79 --> 01:38:39,84 end up out on our curbs and as we heard our police chief talk about how he's now 1192 01:38:39,85 --> 01:38:43,85 has the volunteers from the police department picking things up and so that our 1193 01:38:43,86 --> 01:38:47,75 city can look better they can't pick up the couches you know they're too big for 1194 01:38:47,76 --> 01:38:52,97 them but that is you're talking about another kind of recycling that which we just 1195 01:38:52,98 --> 01:38:58,36 saw talked about is the big stuff that would come after before school was out 1196 01:39:00,08 --> 01:39:05,98 can I just would add that we we're always talking to your franchise hauler 1197 01:39:06,73 --> 01:39:11,53 for increased service and convenience for materials at the curb for example. 1198 01:39:13,37 --> 01:39:16,85 Goods. Some could be recycled if there was 1199 01:39:16,86 --> 01:39:21,02 a in point that would accept them some might go solid waste but you know we are 1200 01:39:21,03 --> 01:39:27,35 working to. Be more efficient with overall costs so that there is more 1201 01:39:28,52 --> 01:39:33,75 money in the system revenue to to offer this additional services that people want 1202 01:39:33,76 --> 01:39:38,50 like bulky goods couches beat up front or white goods at the curb and things like 1203 01:39:38,51 --> 01:39:43,80 that but they're the facilities that exist do except quite 1204 01:39:43,81 --> 01:39:49,18 a bit by drop off or other arrangements you waste white goods. 1205 01:39:52,80 --> 01:39:56,89 As other people if their customers of emphasize that market development is 1206 01:39:56,90 --> 01:40:03,20 important to. Market Development although ideally we would want to have that occur 1207 01:40:03,21 --> 01:40:10,03 in an arcade I think it also would be important to have it very least in California 1208 01:40:10,04 --> 01:40:14,35 at least in the US if interiors are being shipped Asia I would think that that 1209 01:40:14,36 --> 01:40:17,36 should be less desirable So I think that that should be 1210 01:40:17,78 --> 01:40:24,32 a criteria within the our fee process is to what degree is it local 1211 01:40:25,86 --> 01:40:30,83 and right now because I've been totally trained. In H.W. 1212 01:40:30,83 --> 01:40:35,37 May which I know they don't have the paint care program and they are interested in 1213 01:40:35,37 --> 01:40:41,19 doing the pain care program at aged May And so the only place we actually have that 1214 01:40:41,19 --> 01:40:47,24 is that River disposal at this time and it sure men Williams and. 1215 01:40:49,14 --> 01:40:55,55 Those There are three places but is far is that market development Mark recycling 1216 01:40:55,56 --> 01:41:01,34 market development zone administrator though we have someone that's in our region 1217 01:41:01,58 --> 01:41:01,92 and it's 1218 01:41:01,93 --> 01:41:07,73 a state service state requirement that we have to have them but it's underfunded 1219 01:41:08,19 --> 01:41:12,29 and I think that if we could get it funded again and we had somebody that was 1220 01:41:12,30 --> 01:41:15,97 working on it it would help us with diversion and it would look at some of the 1221 01:41:15,98 --> 01:41:21,97 products because products have actually come about because of that position in our 1222 01:41:21,98 --> 01:41:25,57 region and if you want to see we could have 1223 01:41:25,58 --> 01:41:29,73 a presentation on some of those products Iraq I could tell you after this meeting. 1224 01:41:32,57 --> 01:41:37,56 You have something else to its member winkling but she said food waste would be 1225 01:41:37,57 --> 01:41:43,21 separate this would not be something that would be dealt with by by recycling 1226 01:41:43,33 --> 01:41:48,14 company corrected this point we haven't considered foodways part of this process 1227 01:41:48,23 --> 01:41:51,81 but again it's very early in the process and will scope everything with the public 1228 01:41:51,82 --> 01:41:52,67 but we obviously have 1229 01:41:52,68 --> 01:41:57,26 a very strong proposal that is to me as one working on for the potential of food 1230 01:41:57,27 --> 01:41:57,66 waste and 1231 01:41:57,67 --> 01:42:02,92 a pilot project on the collection side that you all heard about it last meetings I 1232 01:42:02,93 --> 01:42:08,59 don't know if. If this is feasible but as part of the earth. 1233 01:42:10,05 --> 01:42:11,16 I would like to have 1234 01:42:11,20 --> 01:42:16,33 a greenhouse gas impact in terms of where the you know that would come up and where 1235 01:42:16,34 --> 01:42:23,03 the material is going in and other aspects of that So what is the what is the. A 1236 01:42:23,04 --> 01:42:28,25 greenhouse gas analysis of materials and between the different bidders on the 1237 01:42:28,26 --> 01:42:34,10 project did they have that some analysis of that included in their proposal I'm 1238 01:42:34,11 --> 01:42:38,75 glad you brought that up remember councilman Winkler I think we're trying to look 1239 01:42:38,76 --> 01:42:44,69 at that and all city contracts in our piece and agreements now and this was done 1240 01:42:44,70 --> 01:42:50,35 last time I think perhaps we've learned some things and have made it better attempt 1241 01:42:50,36 --> 01:42:55,93 to. Know what to write into their piece so that we can get better information so we 1242 01:42:55,94 --> 01:43:01,46 can measure or compare you know what the impacts would be from one response to 1243 01:43:01,47 --> 01:43:05,59 another where things are being shipped what method are they being shipped by things 1244 01:43:05,60 --> 01:43:10,97 like that correct and are they doing this are they doing trucks deadhead or are 1245 01:43:10,98 --> 01:43:15,48 they are they doing back calls and how are you going to account apportion that 1246 01:43:15,49 --> 01:43:18,76 between so you know hauling the two directions is part of the greenhouse gas 1247 01:43:18,77 --> 01:43:23,33 analysis things like that but there is some back calling happening right now as far 1248 01:43:23,34 --> 01:43:28,35 as some of the presentation today and so I wish you'd been there you would have 1249 01:43:28,36 --> 01:43:32,49 learned oh I just I was saying is that I think they should be included and that 1250 01:43:32,50 --> 01:43:36,28 calling here is part of the Earth I mean some of that happening of gas analysis. 1251 01:43:38,95 --> 01:43:44,62 Well we haven't really discussed education and. It is so critical and it's what 1252 01:43:44,63 --> 01:43:45,86 made a C.R.C. 1253 01:43:45,87 --> 01:43:50,50 So successful over the years and they had those multiple levels they were using on 1254 01:43:50,80 --> 01:43:53,46 it seems to me that the model we're moving towards now is 1255 01:43:53,47 --> 01:43:57,77 a little bit more sort of professional management of this and maybe I mean it could 1256 01:43:57,78 --> 01:44:03,27 include some education but but even our die hard recycler councilman Winkler didn't 1257 01:44:03,28 --> 01:44:08,09 know what he could recycle there so I mean education has dropped off 1258 01:44:08,10 --> 01:44:14,66 a little bit I'd say and I mean really while I think it's absolutely critical I 1259 01:44:14,67 --> 01:44:18,30 haven't thought this through well enough to really have great suggestions for this 1260 01:44:18,58 --> 01:44:23,64 of course I'm still struggling with this the media here we're working with but. 1261 01:44:26,34 --> 01:44:32,86 Yeah. There you go that was it but 1262 01:44:33,38 --> 01:44:39,06 we are creating less waste so there's the head going for us here but I I think it's 1263 01:44:39,07 --> 01:44:43,72 still really important and so I'd like to make sure that's involved in the 1264 01:44:43,73 --> 01:44:49,75 conversations and the people are thinking out how could we target that the best and 1265 01:44:49,79 --> 01:44:54,56 optimized you know kind of financially and also you know with the right group 1266 01:44:54,74 --> 01:44:59,44 because maybe it's not the people that are dealing with the materials at this point 1267 01:44:59,45 --> 01:45:01,34 or maybe it is I'm not making 1268 01:45:01,35 --> 01:45:04,66 a decision on that I'm not really sure but it has been 1269 01:45:04,67 --> 01:45:08,78 a conversation that the staff level and one of the real reasons another of the real 1270 01:45:08,79 --> 01:45:12,52 reasons of pulling tonnage makes so much sense because then we're all advertising 1271 01:45:12,53 --> 01:45:17,97 the exact same process the exact same program so Eureka's money whatever they're 1272 01:45:17,98 --> 01:45:22,11 putting out benefits arcade arcade as advertising benefits you because it's the 1273 01:45:22,12 --> 01:45:27,29 same throughout the region Yeah that does make sense to me and I mean I've used 1274 01:45:27,73 --> 01:45:33,12 recycling as an example of an effective education program that worked for the last 1275 01:45:33,13 --> 01:45:37,84 twenty years in many other programs that I worked in and so I want to make sure 1276 01:45:37,85 --> 01:45:43,69 that that emphasize and it's important. You know I'll keep thinking about like you 1277 01:45:43,70 --> 01:45:48,71 know how to maybe optimize some of those things. All right so I have 1278 01:45:48,72 --> 01:45:53,41 a. A few comments on this since it's something I've been working on for 1279 01:45:53,42 --> 01:45:58,63 a few years here but first I want to go back to the point about pain care and I'm 1280 01:45:58,64 --> 01:46:04,02 going to ask our legal counsel here to refresh my memory because my understanding 1281 01:46:04,03 --> 01:46:05,01 is that H.B.O. 1282 01:46:05,02 --> 01:46:11,17 May Last I knew was reviewing the pain care 1283 01:46:11,49 --> 01:46:15,50 application and there was there were some issues with contract language but that it 1284 01:46:15,51 --> 01:46:19,36 was probably going to move forward at some point in the future slightly correct 1285 01:46:19,37 --> 01:46:20,51 there there's 1286 01:46:20,52 --> 01:46:24,73 a number of jurisdictions throughout the state that are concerned about some of the 1287 01:46:24,74 --> 01:46:29,80 risk transference provisions in the template that was offered and they are being 1288 01:46:29,81 --> 01:46:35,52 negotiated and resolved and you know Patrick go in the audience from H.B.O. 1289 01:46:35,53 --> 01:46:40,51 May may or may not have more to add to that but May is interested once the contract 1290 01:46:40,52 --> 01:46:45,08 languages. Corrected that's what I thought so it might be 1291 01:46:45,09 --> 01:46:48,90 a little bit easier for some of the private sector players but for government 1292 01:46:48,91 --> 01:46:53,10 agencies there are some stumbling blocks but my understanding wasn't that H.B.O. 1293 01:46:53,11 --> 01:46:57,08 May wasn't interested in paying care if he's not at the board level that wasn't 1294 01:46:57,12 --> 01:47:01,56 a discussion we've had maybe not at the board level but the presentation I heard 1295 01:47:01,57 --> 01:47:05,10 today that they don't want to get into it because of what Nancy said the issues and 1296 01:47:05,11 --> 01:47:09,92 so they don't offer pain care OK that's what I heard I think it may be it's just on 1297 01:47:09,93 --> 01:47:10,52 a little bit of 1298 01:47:10,53 --> 01:47:15,13 a slower track right now but I'll provide an update at some point if I hear 1299 01:47:15,14 --> 01:47:20,72 otherwise on that it's completely off the table but that's not one of her. So 1300 01:47:20,76 --> 01:47:27,47 regarding the. Potential. I'm generally 1301 01:47:27,48 --> 01:47:33,57 supportive of the concept but I would prefer to put the process 1302 01:47:34,33 --> 01:47:34,85 back by 1303 01:47:34,86 --> 01:47:40,80 a couple of months not only for the reasons stated by council member we just relating 1304 01:47:40,81 --> 01:47:44,13 to getting all of that done with all of these different agencies in that time 1305 01:47:44,14 --> 01:47:48,10 period but also I believe it's important to let the H.B.O. 1306 01:47:48,11 --> 01:47:54,93 May strategic planning process complete and see what direction the board takes from 1307 01:47:54,94 --> 01:48:00,93 that because there has been discussion throughout that process of potentially still 1308 01:48:00,94 --> 01:48:03,13 the the idea out there that H.B.O. 1309 01:48:03,14 --> 01:48:08,93 May could own. And that could either be managed by staff or 1310 01:48:08,94 --> 01:48:15,15 a contract could be put out to one of the you know private players to manage that 1311 01:48:15,16 --> 01:48:20,61 and to run it there's no telling whether that's actually in the cards I you know I 1312 01:48:20,62 --> 01:48:25,10 think it's less likely than it was before when H.W. 1313 01:48:25,11 --> 01:48:29,46 Maine was looking at acquiring the Samoa facility but I think that through this 1314 01:48:29,47 --> 01:48:31,62 strategic strategic planning process 1315 01:48:31,63 --> 01:48:35,56 a lot of those questions questions will have been answered so I would prefer to 1316 01:48:35,57 --> 01:48:42,36 wait on any sort of. Even the initial community outreach and 1317 01:48:42,37 --> 01:48:47,31 meetings Intel maybe May or June I think that would that would probably be the 1318 01:48:47,32 --> 01:48:50,13 right way to go if H. W. 1319 01:48:50,14 --> 01:48:57,14 Me doesn't. Build or acquire. Which 1320 01:48:57,42 --> 01:49:02,38 is really my preference or has been over the last couple years so that there is 1321 01:49:02,42 --> 01:49:07,65 even more local control not just that we have local processing but that local 1322 01:49:07,66 --> 01:49:13,05 government and elected officials are involved in making the decisions and 1323 01:49:13,06 --> 01:49:18,64 management which is my preference but if that's not the case then I would support 1324 01:49:18,68 --> 01:49:23,20 such an R.F.P. Process. And I think that the list that's here is 1325 01:49:23,21 --> 01:49:29,81 a very good one items one in two are going to be I think the most important for our 1326 01:49:29,82 --> 01:49:36,01 constituents the customer rates and the local preference. From my view that doesn't 1327 01:49:36,02 --> 01:49:42,80 necessarily need to mean that it's. A locally owned business. Certainly we 1328 01:49:42,81 --> 01:49:47,02 want to support local businesses but for the purposes of having 1329 01:49:47,03 --> 01:49:51,94 a competitive process and seeing what the best options are out there I would you 1330 01:49:51,95 --> 01:49:55,70 know I would say business could be on anywhere but that the jobs would be local is 1331 01:49:55,71 --> 01:49:57,87 really what I'd be looking for that it would be 1332 01:49:57,88 --> 01:50:04,48 a business whether it's in Fortuna or arcade or another state 1333 01:50:04,82 --> 01:50:10,45 that is willing to commit to hiring people locally and so that's my understanding 1334 01:50:10,46 --> 01:50:16,48 of local preference or what I'd want to see. In regards to materials. 1335 01:50:19,29 --> 01:50:25,09 We could go all over the place with that but for me the maybe the. Standard would 1336 01:50:25,10 --> 01:50:31,69 be. Anything that is currently being accepted and I appreciate that there are some 1337 01:50:31,70 --> 01:50:36,74 more materials that are being accepted now under this new arrangement and so 1338 01:50:36,75 --> 01:50:41,01 although it has its downside of not having the local jobs component I would like to 1339 01:50:41,02 --> 01:50:45,69 see when we if we're able to bring those jobs back that those materials are still 1340 01:50:45,70 --> 01:50:52,25 being accepted. On the single stream versus dual stream discussion I was 1341 01:50:52,55 --> 01:50:54,04 thinking maybe that would be more of 1342 01:50:54,05 --> 01:50:58,91 a discussion point tonight I'm open on that I know that there are strong partisans 1343 01:50:58,92 --> 01:51:03,67 on on both sides of that the single stream technology is getting so much better 1344 01:51:03,87 --> 01:51:10,19 that the materials are marketable and so although I still believe that dual stream 1345 01:51:10,97 --> 01:51:15,66 puts out a better final product I'm open to single stream if it's 1346 01:51:15,67 --> 01:51:21,30 a sophisticated enough single stream process that actually is able to remove the 1347 01:51:21,31 --> 01:51:28,11 contaminants and not all single stream is made equally. The 1348 01:51:28,12 --> 01:51:33,74 living wage issue is an interesting one because in some ways it clashes with the 1349 01:51:33,92 --> 01:51:38,71 customer rates issue but I had put that in there in a discussion 1350 01:51:38,72 --> 01:51:42,67 a few years ago when I know others have brought it up as well because I think there 1351 01:51:42,68 --> 01:51:48,75 needs to be some kind of balance it doesn't necessarily need to clash. I don't know 1352 01:51:48,76 --> 01:51:49,00 if it's 1353 01:51:49,01 --> 01:51:54,26 a living wage or just some sort of basic floor but I think that's important to 1354 01:51:54,27 --> 01:52:01,09 consider. Because when we are contracting out for the services 1355 01:52:01,10 --> 01:52:05,24 what we're saying is these are services that we could provide as 1356 01:52:05,31 --> 01:52:06,73 a public agency or as 1357 01:52:06,74 --> 01:52:11,18 a group of public agencies but instead we're choosing to go out to this bidding 1358 01:52:11,19 --> 01:52:17,90 process because we want to see what's out there and in doing so maybe we're 1359 01:52:17,91 --> 01:52:19,35 looking to cut costs or get 1360 01:52:19,36 --> 01:52:22,95 a broader range of services provide some service that we don't feel that we can 1361 01:52:22,96 --> 01:52:29,24 provide ourselves. But I still think that wages starting wages should be. 1362 01:52:30,67 --> 01:52:36,70 Comparable if not exactly the same to what you'd see in the public sector. You know 1363 01:52:36,71 --> 01:52:41,62 those those might not be city of Arcadia wages those might be the you know modest 1364 01:52:41,63 --> 01:52:42,91 starting wages of H. W. O. 1365 01:52:42,92 --> 01:52:48,02 May which are not extremely high but they are higher than minimum wage in so the 1366 01:52:48,03 --> 01:52:51,26 reason I have brought that up and I think it should be a criteria but not 1367 01:52:51,27 --> 01:52:57,95 a main criteria is that I I would hate to see the low better come in and get the 1368 01:52:57,96 --> 01:53:02,35 contract because they were paying everyone minimum wage for everything and so 1369 01:53:02,36 --> 01:53:09,06 that's the concern there. Those are those are really the main issues for me 1370 01:53:09,46 --> 01:53:14,16 the time frame I think we're going to look in ten to twenty years more so than five 1371 01:53:14,17 --> 01:53:19,44 to twenty for this type of thing especially if we want a business to make 1372 01:53:19,45 --> 01:53:20,56 a commitment to 1373 01:53:20,57 --> 01:53:27,29 a facility. If it's you know there's no telling who would be the low bidder 1374 01:53:27,30 --> 01:53:32,85 and be able to provide all of the services that the agencies would be interested in 1375 01:53:33,18 --> 01:53:38,16 so if it weren't the smaller facility which is all already constructed but also 1376 01:53:38,17 --> 01:53:44,15 need some costly upgrades then there would be this additional cost of constructing 1377 01:53:44,16 --> 01:53:48,42 a new facility and for that I think probably ten years is going to be the minimum 1378 01:53:48,43 --> 01:53:55,29 that anyone's going to want to get into. So those are my initial thoughts. You know 1379 01:53:55,30 --> 01:53:58,96 I'm sure I'll have more as we go through the process but that's where I'm coming 1380 01:53:58,97 --> 01:54:04,96 from at this point member still had to go back to that we had when we were 1381 01:54:04,97 --> 01:54:06,82 discussing the fact that we wanted to put 1382 01:54:06,83 --> 01:54:10,96 a committee together to help us with looking at our waste or is there 1383 01:54:10,97 --> 01:54:13,20 a waste are we interested in doing that as 1384 01:54:13,21 --> 01:54:17,12 a counselor or not and then if we aren't we could take it off the table if we are 1385 01:54:17,13 --> 01:54:21,41 you know we need to proceed. If you're talking about like a ad hoc committee not 1386 01:54:21,42 --> 01:54:28,16 a long term ad hoc I would say three months would be it and maybe to me I mean it's 1387 01:54:28,17 --> 01:54:31,73 a stress I know it's stressful for staff but I think we might get 1388 01:54:31,74 --> 01:54:36,73 a lot of input and be able to craft our F.P. 1389 01:54:36,96 --> 01:54:41,54 Maybe better or not or know what else we could do so I don't see it more than three 1390 01:54:41,55 --> 01:54:46,83 months and maybe no more than six meetings. It seems like good timing right now 1391 01:54:47,14 --> 01:54:48,18 since we have a kind of 1392 01:54:48,19 --> 01:54:52,25 a you know you're suggesting we wait to the strategic plan be done which puts out 1393 01:54:52,26 --> 01:54:56,74 a few months and we have some good you know some people really been thinking about 1394 01:54:56,75 --> 01:54:57,93 this and and I didn't get 1395 01:54:57,94 --> 01:55:01,35 a chance to talk to him before this so I mean I can appreciate the idea of bringing 1396 01:55:01,36 --> 01:55:04,60 some of their thought process and. I think there to 1397 01:55:04,61 --> 01:55:10,80 a couple considerations on that one is bring in effectively bring in public and put 1398 01:55:10,81 --> 01:55:17,51 the other one is to what degree would staff find the self-will that they haven't 1399 01:55:17,52 --> 01:55:17,70 had 1400 01:55:17,71 --> 01:55:23,00 a committee to to look into this I think you could certainly it's not going to hurt 1401 01:55:23,01 --> 01:55:26,38 the process I mean we've already initiated conversations with the zero waste 1402 01:55:26,39 --> 01:55:28,99 humbled group specific to the potential for 1403 01:55:29,00 --> 01:55:32,79 a new R P and we would be getting some of that input aside from 1404 01:55:32,80 --> 01:55:37,27 a single public meeting that we might hold here in Arcadia That being said I 1405 01:55:37,28 --> 01:55:41,81 wouldn't want that ad hoc group to be limited to just talking about you know the 1406 01:55:41,82 --> 01:55:47,08 best potential for this our peak is I really saw that group is talking larger about 1407 01:55:47,34 --> 01:55:50,94 you know what's left in our ways characterisation study that isn't going to be 1408 01:55:50,95 --> 01:55:52,00 addressed for this R.P. 1409 01:55:52,01 --> 01:55:55,10 That we need to pull from the way stream and that we need to find recyclable 1410 01:55:55,11 --> 01:56:01,33 markets or use markets for so we could maybe initiate that process earlier but you 1411 01:56:01,34 --> 01:56:04,21 know and we could focus on the potential for this R.F.P. 1412 01:56:04,22 --> 01:56:06,85 But I would like to see that group in the future have 1413 01:56:06,86 --> 01:56:12,32 a few more meetings to talk about things outside are larger than this yes. Well I 1414 01:56:12,61 --> 01:56:18,52 agree with that and I did I say I wanted them only to work on they are OK I hope I 1415 01:56:18,53 --> 01:56:24,91 didn't if I did I can't remember for you Alex is but what additional Would with 1416 01:56:24,92 --> 01:56:30,57 this. Additional benefit would there be beyond what 1417 01:56:31,13 --> 01:56:35,59 a independent outside groups such as as here we sampled contributes Well I think 1418 01:56:35,60 --> 01:56:38,76 we'd have some of the Zero Waste humble people on there I think it should be really 1419 01:56:38,77 --> 01:56:44,88 small I'm not saying you know we should include the world and no more than five 1420 01:56:44,89 --> 01:56:50,09 people even three would probably work and I think that they're there they're in the 1421 01:56:50,10 --> 01:56:57,07 field and our staff does great work but they are not specifically they're doing 1422 01:56:57,08 --> 01:57:00,92 other things I mean you if you ask our deputy director just she do anything else 1423 01:57:00,93 --> 01:57:06,42 besides ways she might use cell towers she might to solid ways she might do 1424 01:57:06,43 --> 01:57:11,18 recreation you know she has she has a whole slew of things so this would be 1425 01:57:11,19 --> 01:57:16,83 a focal point of focusing on on these alternatives or what is available from 1426 01:57:16,84 --> 01:57:21,76 a group that actually focuses on that that's their main interest it would be like 1427 01:57:21,77 --> 01:57:26,19 you with energy you know or whatever it is how do you develop that first cell phone 1428 01:57:26,20 --> 01:57:32,38 you worked on you know and. If you had some cell phone people or people that knew 1429 01:57:32,39 --> 01:57:36,25 how to do that you get further along than if you just had someone said oh we need 1430 01:57:36,26 --> 01:57:39,92 a cell phone but I don't know how to do it you bring in those experts to try to 1431 01:57:39,93 --> 01:57:44,99 help you make that work since Michael worked on one of the first cell phones so I 1432 01:57:45,00 --> 01:57:48,79 just that's where I'm coming from I just like to take some of their expertise see 1433 01:57:48,80 --> 01:57:53,54 how we can use it what they come up with what are our thoughts what happens just 1434 01:57:53,65 --> 01:57:59,04 it's a bonus I think it would in my opinion might be a drain on staff but it's 1435 01:57:59,05 --> 01:58:05,10 a bonus I think you might get excited more excited. So the way I'm hearing this 1436 01:58:05,11 --> 01:58:11,48 it's so sort of complimentary of the process but one thing also the. 1437 01:58:12,67 --> 01:58:17,55 Strategic plan would be complementary to this process and try to somehow try to 1438 01:58:17,56 --> 01:58:23,86 integrate both of those efforts so that there. It was 1439 01:58:23,87 --> 01:58:30,66 a losing you know good ideas. Come from I really want to belabor it but 1440 01:58:30,67 --> 01:58:35,09 I'd like to echo I think there's value there's community expertise that could be 1441 01:58:35,10 --> 01:58:38,82 brought into this and I wasn't aware of the timeframe for the strategic plan but 1442 01:58:38,83 --> 01:58:45,20 that's seems like it really. And I don't know do we need 1443 01:58:45,21 --> 01:58:50,57 a motion on this to move this forward just looking ahead or you've got direct 1444 01:58:50,62 --> 01:58:52,76 enough direction from staff you know we might need 1445 01:58:52,77 --> 01:58:58,16 a motion just to deal with it is far as getting I had ad hoc committee together 1446 01:58:58,51 --> 01:59:01,73 we're going to have to figure out who it is how do we want to do it do I advertise 1447 01:59:01,74 --> 01:59:03,58 an interview everyone go out for 1448 01:59:03,59 --> 01:59:07,82 a sixty day advertising or do we want to change it around you know how do we. 1449 01:59:09,19 --> 01:59:13,59 Legally I don't know what we can do but. Have private sector you just pull it 1450 01:59:13,60 --> 01:59:14,37 together and have 1451 01:59:14,38 --> 01:59:21,32 a meeting tomorrow. It's all of our city attorney come 1452 01:59:21,33 --> 01:59:24,00 in on this but staff I suppose could pull together just 1453 01:59:24,59 --> 01:59:29,80 a group of people to help collaborate and meet with us and report back and you know 1454 01:59:30,47 --> 01:59:34,11 we can certainly let you know who is interested we can kind of cast it why 1455 01:59:34,15 --> 01:59:36,45 understanding that we don't want a large group we can set up 1456 01:59:36,46 --> 01:59:40,78 a few meeting dates and we can report back if you would just like. I think that 1457 01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:44,36 that makes I think perhaps you think we don't have to interview and go through all 1458 01:59:44,37 --> 01:59:47,28 of yeah because. And if there's 1459 01:59:47,29 --> 01:59:50,69 a need to formalize something in the long term that can be brought back in 1460 01:59:50,70 --> 01:59:52,81 a future time so to so do you need 1461 01:59:52,82 --> 01:59:58,02 a motion I think we're OK. It's not on. 1462 01:59:59,80 --> 02:00:03,95 It's up to the council whether we want to provide any direction as regards to they 1463 02:00:03,96 --> 02:00:04,43 are of P. 1464 02:00:04,44 --> 02:00:10,86 Process or if we want to. Hold off on that I personally don't want to rush it. 1465 02:00:12,39 --> 02:00:14,07 So I think I heard you say 1466 02:00:14,28 --> 02:00:19,82 a couple of months wait till after the plan is finished wait till we have 1467 02:00:19,83 --> 02:00:26,06 a few meetings with this ad hoc group and the meanwhile everyone we still have 1468 02:00:26,07 --> 02:00:32,27 a way to. Somebody is collecting our things for us. They are piling up at the 1469 02:00:32,86 --> 02:00:39,37 corporation I think for clarity. When we send our staff back and they're 1470 02:00:39,41 --> 02:00:42,84 communicating with the staff at the other agencies that would be helpful to know 1471 02:00:43,28 --> 02:00:47,29 perhaps if this is something we're interested in even if we're not willing to 1472 02:00:47,30 --> 02:00:49,38 commit yet just so there isn't 1473 02:00:49,39 --> 02:00:53,37 a sense that arcade it would be against it I would go for the out I'll make 1474 02:00:53,38 --> 02:00:59,70 a motion that we. Conceptually support participation in a regional R.F.P. 1475 02:01:00,66 --> 02:01:07,28 To establish long term solution for processing recyclable materials sent and and 1476 02:01:07,29 --> 02:01:09,11 explore the possibility of 1477 02:01:09,12 --> 02:01:13,44 a technical advisory committee staff can report back to us at 1478 02:01:13,45 --> 02:01:19,09 a future date the second. Right we have a motion in 1479 02:01:19,10 --> 02:01:25,25 a second any further discussion on the motion or employment I think they're going 1480 02:01:25,26 --> 02:01:32,21 to meet initially. Below or and and then. 1481 02:01:35,58 --> 02:01:41,91 OK I think we got a motion All right so we have a motion and 1482 02:01:41,92 --> 02:01:48,52 a second all those in favor say aye aye aye and you post OK So 1483 02:01:48,54 --> 02:01:49,84 Michael you're going to be here for 1484 02:01:49,86 --> 02:01:56,26 a while. Business So at this point unless there's anything else on the site I'm 1485 02:01:56,27 --> 02:01:56,97 will be taking 1486 02:01:56,98 --> 02:15:51,57 a ten minute break. Welcome 1487 02:15:51,58 --> 02:15:58,38 back everyone we are now I see an old business receive an update on the rail with 1488 02:15:58,39 --> 02:16:04,51 trail connectivity project and notice of Vail ability intent to adopt 1489 02:16:04,52 --> 02:16:07,61 a mitigated negative declaration and we please have 1490 02:16:07,62 --> 02:16:14,07 a staff report. Yeah this is going to look like this. 1491 02:16:16,22 --> 02:16:22,90 But in essence tonight's presentation is just to. Let the council know and really 1492 02:16:22,91 --> 02:16:28,08 the public know that we have released all of the environmental review including 1493 02:16:28,35 --> 02:16:34,97 a national study and mitigated leg back for the rail trail connectivity project I 1494 02:16:34,98 --> 02:16:38,22 know you're very familiar with the project so I wasn't going to go through in great 1495 02:16:38,23 --> 02:16:43,69 detail there is volume this detail on our website associated with now with the 1496 02:16:43,70 --> 02:16:47,87 environmental review of this project but in short the project is about four and 1497 02:16:47,88 --> 02:16:53,34 a half mile eighty excessive class one trail that stems from Northern Archita 1498 02:16:53,38 --> 02:16:57,84 Sunset Avenue and Larsen park down through town through the Marshall wildlife 1499 02:16:57,85 --> 02:17:02,39 sanctuary and into the one on one corridor or running on the west side of Highway 1500 02:17:02,40 --> 02:17:06,83 one hundred one between the highway and the railroad corridor along humble Bay to 1501 02:17:06,84 --> 02:17:13,61 pray cut. The sequel the California Environmental Quality 1502 02:17:13,62 --> 02:17:18,26 Act requires us to do an environmental analysis we looked at least three 1503 02:17:18,27 --> 02:17:20,04 alternatives is required and 1504 02:17:20,05 --> 02:17:24,58 a sequel for this particular project we looked at an alternative completely within 1505 02:17:24,59 --> 02:17:28,71 the railroad right of way we liked an alternative completely outside of the 1506 02:17:28,72 --> 02:17:33,21 railroad right away and then we looked at several other options that were various 1507 02:17:33,22 --> 02:17:37,56 combinations of in right away and out of right away we completed sort of the 1508 02:17:37,57 --> 02:17:43,26 standard secret checklist and as well as we had when I saw the standard sequence 1509 02:17:43,27 --> 02:17:44,34 checklist has 1510 02:17:44,35 --> 02:17:50,12 a number of environmental considerations cultural resources traffic considerations 1511 02:17:50,35 --> 02:17:56,33 as well as biological resource considerations and then with this particular project 1512 02:17:56,34 --> 02:17:57,08 we also did 1513 02:17:57,09 --> 02:18:01,62 a lot of public school being that resulted in other considerations that they wanted 1514 02:18:01,63 --> 02:18:07,79 us to take Indeed in consideration I guess in the planning process so those who are 1515 02:18:07,80 --> 02:18:12,46 looking at the various route alternatives the number of street crossings that each 1516 02:18:12,47 --> 02:18:18,26 route alternative would have the safety of that particular route alternative both 1517 02:18:18,27 --> 02:18:19,51 to perceive safety from 1518 02:18:19,52 --> 02:18:25,19 a user standpoint and the actual safety impact Jason property owners availability 1519 02:18:25,20 --> 02:18:30,96 of right away land acquisition considerations connectivity with other trails and 1520 02:18:30,97 --> 02:18:36,100 overall user experience so in addition to the standard sequence checklist we. 1521 02:18:38,45 --> 02:18:42,48 Added these and as you probably recall we came up with this really really big ugly 1522 02:18:42,49 --> 02:18:43,26 matrix that was 1523 02:18:43,27 --> 02:18:48,70 a multiple pages that rated every single potential route alternative in all of 1524 02:18:48,71 --> 02:18:54,44 these various categories. So part of that was to determine the most feasible route 1525 02:18:54,44 --> 02:19:01,14 . And part of that was to complete our environmental analysis so tonight 1526 02:19:01,15 --> 02:19:06,07 really is to just share with the council that we've identified four areas of 1527 02:19:06,08 --> 02:19:12,48 potential impact and those are study biological resources cultural resources 1528 02:19:12,80 --> 02:19:17,74 and hazards and hazardous materials and in terms of 1529 02:19:17,95 --> 02:19:21,41 a statics the real crux of that is lighting along L. 1530 02:19:21,42 --> 02:19:26,17 Street potential fencing in specific areas within the railroad corridor or with 1531 02:19:26,34 --> 02:19:31,34 a long alliance Avenue and then the removal of any trees or vegetation so our 1532 02:19:31,35 --> 02:19:31,99 mitigated 1533 02:19:32,00 --> 02:19:38,01 a DAC provides mitigation for any of these hysterics to bring it down to an area of 1534 02:19:38,02 --> 02:19:41,88 significance biological resources throughout the four and 1535 02:19:41,89 --> 02:19:46,28 a half miles of trail we will impact about one point seven seven acres of land 1536 02:19:46,61 --> 02:19:46,99 those are 1537 02:19:47,00 --> 02:19:53,39 a mix of both fresh water or plus tree and salt water strew and wetlands and so we 1538 02:19:53,40 --> 02:19:59,91 have mitigation that is suggested for those impacts as well cultural resources the 1539 02:19:59,92 --> 02:20:05,49 trail does run near areas but not directly over areas of specific concern we did 1540 02:20:05,50 --> 02:20:10,62 a full cultural analysis of sort of the trail planning area because certain 1541 02:20:10,63 --> 02:20:15,95 sections are close to areas of potential significance we will have tribal monitors 1542 02:20:15,96 --> 02:20:20,47 on site if we're doing any excavation or when we're doing excavation in those areas 1543 02:20:21,14 --> 02:20:25,58 and then the potential for hazards and hazardous materials old railroad corridors 1544 02:20:25,59 --> 02:20:25,98 just have 1545 02:20:25,99 --> 02:20:31,47 a history of potential hazards we have mapped any areas that are very close to the 1546 02:20:31,48 --> 02:20:36,55 trail and special protocols basically through the mitigated 1547 02:20:36,56 --> 02:20:40,62 a deck would be put into place for construction near historic sites of potential 1548 02:20:40,63 --> 02:20:42,49 contamination so in 1549 02:20:42,50 --> 02:20:47,16 a real nutshell I mean you'll see you know if I brought the books to be about this 1550 02:20:47,20 --> 02:20:49,21 much paper but in 1551 02:20:49,22 --> 02:20:52,55 a real nutshell those are the potential areas of impact that the mitigate in 1552 02:20:52,56 --> 02:20:58,90 a decade dressed. It's going to have to roll over we got it 1553 02:20:59,82 --> 02:21:01,80 and so we do want to introduce 1554 02:21:01,81 --> 02:21:06,25 a fact that we had released all of the environmental documents with the intent for 1555 02:21:06,26 --> 02:21:12,88 your council to adopt them. April second will be the close of public comment for 1556 02:21:12,89 --> 02:21:17,48 state agencies through the clearing house. April third we will have 1557 02:21:17,49 --> 02:21:21,27 a public hearing on your council agenda just for you for us to take additional 1558 02:21:21,28 --> 02:21:25,84 public input in comment into the environmental review process on April twenty 1559 02:21:25,85 --> 02:21:30,28 second we are going to close non-agency public comment so any other local comments 1560 02:21:30,29 --> 02:21:35,12 that come from public input through this process and then between April twenty 1561 02:21:35,13 --> 02:21:39,70 third and May first we'll be asking the council to adopt that Medicaid in the dock 1562 02:21:39,71 --> 02:21:44,41 in the environmental process so I just want to stress this is just an update of the 1563 02:21:44,42 --> 02:21:50,25 process and no decision point for you tonight. But since we have notice this 1564 02:21:50,26 --> 02:21:52,77 environmental document it's posted 1565 02:21:52,78 --> 02:21:57,32 a notice on the clearinghouse if anyone's here tonight that wants to speak about it 1566 02:21:57,77 --> 02:22:01,78 we would record that as an official comment on the environmental documents so that 1567 02:22:01,79 --> 02:22:07,18 if that occurs to me we're prepared there so it's. Just 1568 02:22:07,19 --> 02:22:14,11 a lay out the time frame so you're aware that. People are honing in on 1569 02:22:14,11 --> 02:22:20,40 this and we hope that we can. Get comments and respond to them to meet their 1570 02:22:20,41 --> 02:22:27,15 schedule. Public works. Director 1571 02:22:27,24 --> 02:22:33,58 classmate may. Mention the timeframe the funding is. 1572 02:22:34,04 --> 02:22:39,57 In place for the Phase one so that's what we're holding in on for the permitting of 1573 02:22:39,58 --> 02:22:44,46 the Phase one the northern part but the environmental document as outlined by 1574 02:22:44,67 --> 02:22:49,73 Deputy Director dreamer covers the entire project the entire four four mile project 1575 02:22:49,74 --> 02:22:52,76 even though it may be. You know year 1576 02:22:53,04 --> 02:22:58,25 a few years out before those Phase two three and four are implemented and will be 1577 02:22:58,26 --> 02:22:58,81 permanent. 1578 02:23:05,66 --> 02:23:12,55 All right any question. Go forward Well thank you this is super exciting and 1579 02:23:12,56 --> 02:23:18,75 I really just want to thank staff immensely for all the work that this is taken. A 1580 02:23:18,76 --> 02:23:23,17 couple of thoughts came across my mind and I know this isn't the classic way sequel 1581 02:23:23,21 --> 02:23:28,30 looks at it sudden enough this can fit into anything but you know there's affecting 1582 02:23:28,31 --> 02:23:34,51 aesthetics I think I really believe that this trail is going to end up like with 1583 02:23:34,55 --> 02:23:40,49 art you know it's going through the creamery district our region and I know they 1584 02:23:40,50 --> 02:23:45,59 discuss it and I'm talking about you know in the next ten twenty years or something 1585 02:23:45,96 --> 02:23:49,07 that they'll be wonderful things that occur along there so I actually think the 1586 02:23:49,08 --> 02:23:56,00 aesthetics may get enhanced so that's something I just I'm expecting actually 1587 02:23:56,01 --> 02:23:56,72 so that's 1588 02:23:56,76 --> 02:24:03,33 a thought and and then cultural. I was just thinking about cultural And I suppose 1589 02:24:03,34 --> 02:24:06,56 we're talking about the native cultures that were here but I was also thinking 1590 02:24:06,88 --> 02:24:12,51 about. You know just the history of some of those the lower areas over there you 1591 02:24:12,52 --> 02:24:16,88 know the barrel factories the things like that and so possibly over the course of 1592 02:24:16,89 --> 02:24:23,19 time you know we could enhance some of that cultural experience on you know whether 1593 02:24:23,20 --> 02:24:27,99 it's just information boards that are nicely done from the natural resources 1594 02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:34,19 planning department or you know. Or and even information about the native cultures 1595 02:24:34,20 --> 02:24:38,99 I mean I just think that that possibly could be enhanced along this because this is 1596 02:24:39,00 --> 02:24:39,40 going to become 1597 02:24:39,41 --> 02:24:43,50 a corridor or you know it's going to be highly used once this is there people are 1598 02:24:43,51 --> 02:24:48,58 going to be all over this place and so I just think we what we're doing really is 1599 02:24:48,59 --> 02:24:53,62 kind of opening up opportunities for ourselves to you know like I said an enhanced 1600 02:24:53,63 --> 02:24:58,05 in the artistic aspects of it and also we could celebrate the cultures around it so 1601 02:24:58,09 --> 02:24:59,68 I realize it probably doesn't fit into 1602 02:24:59,69 --> 02:25:04,72 a typical sequence comments but. I think I think it's 1603 02:25:04,73 --> 02:25:09,83 a great comment and anytime you bring people in. You know closer to the coast 1604 02:25:09,95 --> 02:25:15,49 improve access you know an opportunity for interpretation education and some things 1605 02:25:15,50 --> 02:25:21,43 may follow that you may not think about all upfront and infrastructure part and I 1606 02:25:21,44 --> 02:25:25,19 think we'll see that yeah I think so too I'm kind of more taken out like next ten 1607 02:25:25,20 --> 02:25:29,17 twenty years what opportunities will open up for ourselves as we open up this 1608 02:25:29,18 --> 02:25:35,91 corridor. With current technology and probably with 1609 02:25:35,92 --> 02:25:42,45 enhanced technology that you can have. Codes whatever the next generation is after 1610 02:25:42,46 --> 02:25:47,37 barcode that you can scan with your smartphone and that could access you in more 1611 02:25:47,38 --> 02:25:51,46 information on whatever you're looking at that existed there such as the barrel 1612 02:25:51,47 --> 02:25:57,84 factory or other historic sites along the way so that we could have. Sure things 1613 02:25:57,85 --> 02:26:00,80 that would describe what's happening but it's simply what I wanted to see in more 1614 02:26:00,81 --> 02:26:04,84 depth we could have on the city's website tied into these codes that's been 1615 02:26:04,85 --> 02:26:11,84 discussed in city. The kind of technology so. We'll be able to do that 1616 02:26:11,85 --> 02:26:16,95 with our telephone service system too once we get that the old one taken away and 1617 02:26:16,96 --> 02:26:18,46 we get a new one we'll have 1618 02:26:18,47 --> 02:26:26,41 a lot more capacity to do that sort of thing I got. All 1619 02:26:26,42 --> 02:26:31,72 right anything else from the council before going to public comment. Any member of 1620 02:26:31,73 --> 02:26:36,52 the public who would like to speak on this I do have one question and that is what 1621 02:26:36,53 --> 02:26:40,49 is going to be the process for deciding among the alternatives I mean you've been 1622 02:26:40,50 --> 02:26:44,97 doing a process but. How do you make 1623 02:26:44,98 --> 02:26:49,95 a final decision on what the final design is but we have made 1624 02:26:49,96 --> 02:26:55,00 a final selected alignment and I might be happy to go through that with you tonight 1625 02:26:55,01 --> 02:26:55,72 I got 1626 02:26:55,76 --> 02:27:01,04 a bunch of more slides that would be offset if you want to see I'm. But we did do 1627 02:27:01,05 --> 02:27:06,01 that through sort of through that large matrix and through that public process and 1628 02:27:06,02 --> 02:27:10,84 then we released that final selected alternative and that selected alternative is 1629 02:27:10,85 --> 02:27:15,56 what we've done the very specific final analysis on exactly what Lynne packs we 1630 02:27:15,57 --> 02:27:19,35 would have exactly where the fencing would be exactly how many trees would be 1631 02:27:19,36 --> 02:27:23,50 removed how many light poles would be needed so that finals like to the Liman is 1632 02:27:23,51 --> 02:27:27,57 what we've done final designs and specs on and I'd be happy to get you 1633 02:27:27,58 --> 02:27:31,54 a copy of those or you know if the council would like to walk the final alignment 1634 02:27:31,55 --> 02:27:35,66 that would certainly be an option if any of you want to come in and even just walk 1635 02:27:35,67 --> 02:27:38,87 us through town Porth portion to get you to some more Boulevard I'll give you 1636 02:27:38,88 --> 02:27:45,81 a real sense of how it would flow. I'd be better. I would want 1637 02:27:45,82 --> 02:27:50,47 to do it the selection was really based on the public comment they received that 1638 02:27:50,48 --> 02:27:54,14 went into the matrix and then the public comment that we received coming out of 1639 02:27:54,15 --> 02:27:55,34 sort of the you know we had 1640 02:27:55,35 --> 02:27:58,68 a few little areas that there were choices that during the largest public meeting 1641 02:27:58,69 --> 02:28:03,17 we had and we had about one hundred fifty people that came to that and gave input 1642 02:28:03,18 --> 02:28:09,36 on those final sections. Thank you. At this point I open it to the public would 1643 02:28:09,37 --> 02:28:11,13 anyone like to comment on the side I'm. 1644 02:28:19,45 --> 02:28:25,51 Hello Council Dave Missouri from Arcadia this is just wonderful this is great. You 1645 02:28:25,52 --> 02:28:26,69 know really 1646 02:28:26,73 --> 02:28:32,93 a lot of praise to Karen and to the whole staff for putting it together. Way back 1647 02:28:32,94 --> 02:28:35,53 in two thousand and six you know we had 1648 02:28:35,54 --> 02:28:41,21 a working group looking at the trails that group was pretty much dedicated to rail 1649 02:28:41,22 --> 02:28:46,89 with trail Mark took over from me on that group and I think that. 1650 02:28:47,81 --> 02:28:52,51 Something happened after that which was really unfortunate and I think that Arcadia 1651 02:28:52,52 --> 02:28:58,70 continued to move forward with the rail with trail concept and saying look if we 1652 02:28:58,71 --> 02:29:03,38 want to build something let's build something that everybody can agree on let's 1653 02:29:03,39 --> 02:29:07,53 build something that we can all get behind if it costs a little more money if it's 1654 02:29:07,54 --> 02:29:12,51 a little more technical What the heck if everybody's behind it we can get the money 1655 02:29:12,52 --> 02:29:17,71 to do it and I've always been in favor of that philosophy and I think that's the 1656 02:29:17,72 --> 02:29:23,49 philosophy that needs to be acquired for the rest of the route and I think that 1657 02:29:23,50 --> 02:29:28,93 going south from brake cuts the same thing can happen if people look at rail with 1658 02:29:28,94 --> 02:29:32,03 trail I was at the last in C.R.A. 1659 02:29:32,04 --> 02:29:37,62 Meeting there were people there who were disappointed because the end and C.R.A. 1660 02:29:37,88 --> 02:29:43,59 Was not into doing rail banking we already knew that we know that the timber 1661 02:29:43,60 --> 02:29:48,75 Heritage Society wants to run the train there we know that people have dreams of 1662 02:29:48,76 --> 02:29:53,15 all kinds of trains running on that track and the best approach to getting 1663 02:29:53,16 --> 02:29:56,47 a trail out there is to say yes let's build 1664 02:29:56,48 --> 02:30:02,81 a trail next to the rail and let's allow both things to happen yes it may cost 1665 02:30:02,82 --> 02:30:07,33 twice as much it may cost thirty million instead of fifteen or twenty instead of 1666 02:30:07,34 --> 02:30:12,45 five or whatever the numbers are you throw at it but try and get funding when 1667 02:30:12,46 --> 02:30:16,94 you've got people fighting. And compare that with getting funding when you've got 1668 02:30:16,95 --> 02:30:20,99 everybody saying yeah let's do it let's get the trains out there let's get the 1669 02:30:21,00 --> 02:30:25,36 bikes out there let's get the interpretive centers out there to look at the 1670 02:30:25,37 --> 02:30:31,40 wetlands so I think this is really positive I think it's showing that with good 1671 02:30:31,41 --> 02:30:37,40 attention to detail and good attention to what everybody's needs and desires are we 1672 02:30:37,41 --> 02:30:38,28 can move forward with 1673 02:30:38,29 --> 02:30:44,35 a project that benefits everybody and leaves all the options open for the future so 1674 02:30:44,36 --> 02:30:49,90 I really praise the city of Arcadia I praise the Karen and everybody else on the 1675 02:30:49,91 --> 02:30:53,21 staff who have put this together and I think that it should be 1676 02:30:53,22 --> 02:30:58,01 a model for building the rest of the trail and that using This is 1677 02:30:58,02 --> 02:30:59,65 a model we can actually have 1678 02:30:59,69 --> 02:31:04,42 a trail there sometime in the next ten years instead of bickering about it and 1679 02:31:04,43 --> 02:31:08,04 that's what I want to see I think that's what everybody here wants to see is 1680 02:31:08,05 --> 02:31:13,23 a usable bike and pedestrian trail paralleling the highway paralleling the railroad 1681 02:31:13,41 --> 02:31:18,54 so let's do it and thank you so much thank you. 1682 02:31:20,85 --> 02:31:24,92 Is there anyone else who would like to comment all right we'll close public comment 1683 02:31:25,62 --> 02:31:30,21 kind of back over to the council. Well I'll just throw in 1684 02:31:30,22 --> 02:31:34,63 a couple comments I congratulate staff and any member of the public that wants to 1685 02:31:34,64 --> 02:31:38,66 look at the website has all the supporting documents and there's tons of stuff 1686 02:31:38,67 --> 02:31:44,40 there so. And this is you know this is one one of many good projects that can 1687 02:31:44,41 --> 02:31:47,65 happen around the bay this is a whole opportunity for 1688 02:31:47,66 --> 02:31:51,41 a network of trails around the bay and I think this is going to be 1689 02:31:51,71 --> 02:31:55,62 a step towards closing one of the largest gaps in the California Coastal trail so 1690 02:31:55,63 --> 02:31:57,03 this is going to be 1691 02:31:57,26 --> 02:32:01,04 a challenging project but it's going to be well worth all the effort that's gone 1692 02:32:01,05 --> 02:32:07,64 into it so. I think as we move forward and in looking at those final final details 1693 02:32:07,68 --> 02:32:12,50 to the users and all the needs of specific user groups that are going to be the 1694 02:32:12,51 --> 02:32:17,11 trail users will come I think many user groups the from the bike commuter to the 1695 02:32:17,64 --> 02:32:20,23 you know mother with the stroller and the dog everyone has 1696 02:32:20,24 --> 02:32:24,94 a different idea in mind of what that trail and user ship might look like so that's 1697 02:32:24,95 --> 02:32:25,29 going to be 1698 02:32:25,30 --> 02:32:30,27 a challenge as we move forward and see the people on the trail so congratulations. 1699 02:32:35,41 --> 02:32:39,90 I'll just echo that thank you for all of your work it's been really exciting to see 1700 02:32:39,91 --> 02:32:45,76 this happen over the last few years being on the city council and. Actually you 1701 02:32:45,77 --> 02:32:50,51 know we have two major trail projects that will come to be around the same period 1702 02:32:50,52 --> 02:32:55,49 of time so I think you know we've been doing our job and you have to do so thank 1703 02:32:55,50 --> 02:33:02,38 you. All right and I know it's so you don't really require emotion from ice and so 1704 02:33:02,96 --> 02:33:08,53 if you did I would move forward on this but and I had an opportunity to attend 1705 02:33:08,67 --> 02:33:15,54 a staff meeting that was not our own staff but staff dealing with trails from the 1706 02:33:15,55 --> 02:33:21,25 county and Eureka and everybody is really working together on moving forward to 1707 02:33:21,26 --> 02:33:24,46 have have trail connectivity and there's 1708 02:33:24,47 --> 02:33:29,05 a lot happening in Eureka along those areas and that Susan has you know if you 1709 02:33:29,06 --> 02:33:32,49 talked about it here but just some of the thoughts that are going on and so I think 1710 02:33:32,50 --> 02:33:39,25 we're going to see quite an interesting connect neck did trail system here 1711 02:33:39,35 --> 02:33:44,04 I kind of want to just to echo that and to let Dave know that there is quite 1712 02:33:44,05 --> 02:33:48,97 a bit more cooperation going people understanding this the city of our kid and 1713 02:33:48,98 --> 02:33:49,66 caring and really been 1714 02:33:49,67 --> 02:33:55,53 a leader and help you know I don't mean to demean everyone we market 1715 02:33:56,53 --> 02:34:03,27 but I don't want to and I see Mark in this. But. You know 1716 02:34:03,89 --> 02:34:10,69 it's the tide has turned I think and I think we're all see in the light we want to 1717 02:34:10,70 --> 02:34:16,38 keep the multi-modal options going we're not trying to close anyone out and with 1718 02:34:16,55 --> 02:34:22,63 that kind of thinking that helped people get behind yeah we want to trail between 1719 02:34:22,64 --> 02:34:26,58 your weekend arcade and connect into this and so there's there's some good energy 1720 02:34:26,59 --> 02:34:32,39 going on now so I'm hoping to see something that I can actually ride on before I 1721 02:34:32,52 --> 02:34:37,70 have to give up right. If I can whatever period of time that is so. There is here 1722 02:34:37,71 --> 02:34:40,33 still Yeah I hope to not have to write it on 1723 02:34:40,34 --> 02:34:45,58 a three wheeler let's put it that way. Just to reiterate you're looking if any 1724 02:34:45,80 --> 02:34:49,97 members of the public still want to comment on the deck they've got till April 1725 02:34:49,98 --> 02:34:54,100 second to do so is that right. Any public comments haven't tell it will twenty 1726 02:34:55,01 --> 02:35:00,02 second agency state agency comments through the clearing house there comment period 1727 02:35:00,03 --> 02:35:05,28 officially ends April second I just want to add you know we are working with 1728 02:35:05,77 --> 02:35:11,03 community development in this as well as the sequel process and we all made the 1729 02:35:11,04 --> 02:35:14,54 decision to come straight to the city council and not go to the Planning Commission 1730 02:35:14,55 --> 02:35:20,56 for this project but the Community Development Department is looking at all aspects 1731 02:35:20,57 --> 02:35:24,80 of the environmental review along with our Department of Public Works as 1732 02:35:24,81 --> 02:35:31,06 a city city wide. Analysis and partnership went forward. 1733 02:35:34,06 --> 02:35:39,57 All right thanks again everyone and moves us to the new business portion of our 1734 02:35:39,58 --> 02:35:45,61 agenda. And will be receiving a presentation by Michael furnace and U.S. 1735 02:35:45,62 --> 02:35:50,21 Forest Service retired regarding climate change induced sea level rise and 1736 02:35:50,22 --> 02:35:55,53 implications for humble Bay and I want to thank you Michael for sticking around we 1737 02:35:55,57 --> 02:36:00,40 talked so much that we I think we drove away most of your audience but we're all 1738 02:36:00,41 --> 02:36:05,20 pretty stoked to receive this presentation for you yeah there's yeah hopefully 1739 02:36:05,21 --> 02:36:05,53 we've got 1740 02:36:05,54 --> 02:36:12,37 a big crowd you know it's also. I just preface here you know we stop 1741 02:36:12,38 --> 02:36:16,31 wasn't looking for feedback for any you know any decision or 1742 02:36:16,32 --> 02:36:21,72 a project or anything it's it was just. An informed discussion. 1743 02:36:23,28 --> 02:36:30,01 Michael for an expert in his field is also want to forest management committee. And 1744 02:36:30,01 --> 02:36:36,81 . He talks about climate change and not just on the civil rights issue around the 1745 02:36:36,82 --> 02:36:42,97 world and around this country but in terms of forest structure hydrology and 1746 02:36:42,98 --> 02:36:48,91 changes on a whole array of fronts. Anyway we're fortunate to have 1747 02:36:48,99 --> 02:36:52,87 a scientist of his caliber in the city and actually on one of our committees to 1748 02:36:52,88 --> 02:36:59,15 help decision makers and staff with with with the science background we need to 1749 02:36:59,16 --> 02:37:02,15 make decisions going forward and there are 1750 02:37:02,16 --> 02:37:08,71 a lot of other aspects to dealing with adaptation of sea level rise and cities 1751 02:37:08,72 --> 02:37:15,52 participating in but tonight wasn't intended to. Tear off any of 1752 02:37:15,53 --> 02:37:19,94 those it was just just an information type discussion 1753 02:37:22,65 --> 02:37:28,71 so anyway. OK I'm going to do. So yeah Michael gave me 1754 02:37:28,72 --> 02:37:32,97 a kind of updated short bio does so is if it's all right with you Mr Mayor may be 1755 02:37:32,98 --> 02:37:36,10 this is so Michael furnace recently retired as 1756 02:37:36,11 --> 02:37:40,52 a forest hydrologist and soil scientist for the research branch of the U.S. 1757 02:37:40,53 --> 02:37:44,95 Forest Service he taught the climate change and land use course in the forestry 1758 02:37:44,96 --> 02:37:50,20 department of H.S. You this fall semester he's a member of the F M A A C. 1759 02:37:50,63 --> 02:37:50,81 And 1760 02:37:50,82 --> 02:37:55,14 a member of the board of directors of the Smith River Alliance during the last two 1761 02:37:55,15 --> 02:37:56,14 years Michael led 1762 02:37:56,15 --> 02:38:01,97 a national team in conducting pilot climate vulnerability assessments for eleven 1763 02:38:01,98 --> 02:38:06,39 national forests across the country and has just published this in the scientific 1764 02:38:06,40 --> 02:38:12,25 literature he has recently been engaged internationally teaching and consulting on 1765 02:38:12,26 --> 02:38:19,17 climate change in Colombia Peru Ecuador Thailand Vietnam Laos Cambodia and 1766 02:38:19,21 --> 02:38:24,78 Israel and here he is in Arcadia to speak to us so I think thank you Michael. 1767 02:38:27,26 --> 02:38:32,12 I need to stick with the microphone here yeah because then people you know watching 1768 02:38:32,13 --> 02:38:32,46 on T.V. 1769 02:38:32,47 --> 02:38:39,47 Can hear you access right. Here Yeah I can go there yeah yeah. I got used 1770 02:38:39,48 --> 02:38:39,99 to carrying 1771 02:38:40,00 --> 02:38:46,45 a stick when I taught the class it was in the morning and. We helped Yeah they were 1772 02:38:46,46 --> 02:38:49,28 sleepy sometimes and but it works better than 1773 02:38:49,29 --> 02:38:54,38 a laser pointer actually although I have this as well. So let me start with this. 1774 02:38:56,81 --> 02:39:02,16 When I have seen the Hungry Ocean gain advantage on the Kingdom of the shore and 1775 02:39:02,17 --> 02:39:08,63 the firm soil when the water remain increasing store with loss and loss with store 1776 02:39:08,63 --> 02:39:14,82 . That's just one verse of Shakespeare sixty fourth sonnet in the only verse the 1777 02:39:14,83 --> 02:39:20,23 only sonnet where the word soil is mentioned and so I committed that to memory but 1778 02:39:20,24 --> 02:39:25,57 it's quite relevant. When I've seen The Hungry Ocean gain advantage in the kingdom 1779 02:39:25,58 --> 02:39:31,25 of the shore. And perhaps it's in the theme of my kind of highfalutin title here of 1780 02:39:31,26 --> 02:39:36,98 geology is destiny but I love this term and it's really true there's another 1781 02:39:37,24 --> 02:39:44,00 expression that. Civilization exists by geologic consent. And you get 1782 02:39:44,01 --> 02:39:48,36 a sense for that in looking at climate change it's very important to take 1783 02:39:48,37 --> 02:39:52,90 a long term perspective and look at how the Earth actually works in the timeframes 1784 02:39:52,91 --> 02:39:56,54 that are relevant to earth processes and you get 1785 02:39:56,55 --> 02:40:02,56 a better much better sense than if you just look short term so. And this is what 1786 02:40:02,57 --> 02:40:07,63 I'll cover Mark told me twenty minutes so. It's going to be I'm going to be going 1787 02:40:07,64 --> 02:40:09,50 through it quite quickly just 1788 02:40:09,51 --> 02:40:15,58 a few basics on how sea overworks. Looking at deep time and how sea levels changed 1789 02:40:15,82 --> 02:40:19,09 through geologic history also take you to 1790 02:40:19,10 --> 02:40:23,95 a few other places in the world and show you why even though we're vulnerable and 1791 02:40:23,96 --> 02:40:29,00 got it so bad as some other places on the globe and then 1792 02:40:29,04 --> 02:40:35,78 a little bit about what we can do about it. So in the last few million years these 1793 02:40:36,07 --> 02:40:42,51 immense continental ice sheets have advanced and retreated dozens of times and each 1794 02:40:42,52 --> 02:40:43,87 time they advance they take up 1795 02:40:43,88 --> 02:40:50,73 a lot of salt water into the ice and the oceans receipt and sea level goes 1796 02:40:50,74 --> 02:40:55,78 down and each time they recede that water goes back into the ocean and sea level 1797 02:40:55,79 --> 02:41:01,67 goes up and it goes over elevation range of about five hundred feet and so and this 1798 02:41:01,68 --> 02:41:05,95 is happened dozens of times in the last few million years and this is just what the 1799 02:41:05,96 --> 02:41:11,32 Earth does and so what's the problem why should we worry about sea. All Rise Well 1800 02:41:11,40 --> 02:41:15,87 obviously it's because if we put ourselves in the way. And it becomes quite 1801 02:41:15,88 --> 02:41:20,62 inconvenient for humans and our infrastructure and where it turns out we're very 1802 02:41:20,63 --> 02:41:23,97 accustomed to having a stable sea level even though that's 1803 02:41:23,98 --> 02:41:30,78 a very unusual state of the earth. And there's two kinds of sea level we need to 1804 02:41:30,82 --> 02:41:34,67 think about this is this is very important is the global sea level or what's called 1805 02:41:35,40 --> 02:41:40,24 you static sea level kind of global global wide sea level and then there's 1806 02:41:40,25 --> 02:41:45,25 a local sea level which is the one you really want to know and there's 1807 02:41:45,83 --> 02:41:50,01 a lot of complexity to determine what local sea level is actually going to be and 1808 02:41:50,34 --> 02:41:55,05 explain that to you about first of all in terms of the static sea level of this 1809 02:41:55,06 --> 02:41:58,79 global sea level there's really two primary controls or some other small factors 1810 02:41:58,80 --> 02:42:01,62 but these are the these are the biggies and there's only one you really need to 1811 02:42:02,61 --> 02:42:07,86 think about and first of all it's the thermal expansion of seawater. And that is 1812 02:42:08,41 --> 02:42:11,15 when water heats up it takes up more space just like 1813 02:42:11,16 --> 02:42:14,44 a thermometer like the mercury in a three monitor and this is 1814 02:42:14,45 --> 02:42:17,87 a very well known process it's easy to predict if you know what the temperature is 1815 02:42:17,88 --> 02:42:21,43 going to be you can say this is what the volume of the oceans are going to be and 1816 02:42:21,44 --> 02:42:26,04 then the melting of glaciers in continental ice sheets so sea ice melting doesn't 1817 02:42:26,05 --> 02:42:30,15 matter but continental ice matters and it matters a lot and is 1818 02:42:30,16 --> 02:42:35,90 a big component of both geologic and the invasion and ongoing. 1819 02:42:38,48 --> 02:42:44,81 And so again thermal expansion and the ice sheets. Those are 1820 02:42:44,82 --> 02:42:50,19 responsible for the global sea level whether it's rising or falling. 1821 02:42:52,07 --> 02:42:56,31 If you look at some Tide records here you can see that you know California and 1822 02:42:56,32 --> 02:43:01,24 Florida in Maryland or New York will have about the same slope to them. And they're 1823 02:43:01,25 --> 02:43:07,91 rising but what's going on with Galveston and Citgo. Well Galveston is 1824 02:43:07,92 --> 02:43:09,03 sinking it has 1825 02:43:09,04 --> 02:43:13,87 a severe subsidy and sprawl them and the local landscape is sinking and so the 1826 02:43:13,88 --> 02:43:18,98 relative sea level is going up much faster than these other places the slope is 1827 02:43:18,99 --> 02:43:25,44 much more steep and sic is rising very quickly so up in Alaska 1828 02:43:25,77 --> 02:43:32,13 that mile deep ice only came off maybe ten thousand years ago and it's still kind 1829 02:43:32,14 --> 02:43:33,33 of rising in 1830 02:43:33,34 --> 02:43:37,22 a rebound from that weight coming off of it's called glacial rebound or ice 1831 02:43:37,23 --> 02:43:41,26 a static rebound and it's out running sea level rise at this point as most of the 1832 02:43:41,27 --> 02:43:46,78 coastal properties in Alaska are they're rising more quickly than sea level is and 1833 02:43:46,79 --> 02:43:53,59 in most scenarios they're going to continue to outrun sea level so. And so 1834 02:43:53,63 --> 02:44:00,38 this is these are the influences again on. The you static sea level to 1835 02:44:00,39 --> 02:44:07,39 global sea level but then the land also in many places and certainly here the 1836 02:44:07,40 --> 02:44:10,46 elevation is not static particularly in 1837 02:44:10,47 --> 02:44:16,49 a highly Tekken ised area like where in the land elevation changes quite radically 1838 02:44:16,50 --> 02:44:22,94 actually both between earthquakes and when earthquakes happen. And 1839 02:44:23,40 --> 02:44:23,69 that's 1840 02:44:23,70 --> 02:44:28,73 a very big part of what needs to be looked at and what needs to be figured out 1841 02:44:28,74 --> 02:44:33,82 before you know what you're really facing. And then there's the episodic stuff that 1842 02:44:33,83 --> 02:44:39,63 happens with tides and storm surge and wave height and the rest of it that happens 1843 02:44:39,98 --> 02:44:46,96 and adds to. The tendency of the salt water to come ashore. And of course you can 1844 02:44:46,97 --> 02:44:51,84 also have flooding coming down the rivers so the water's coming both ways and that 1845 02:44:51,88 --> 02:44:58,65 even makes it more. Severe. And of course you know the 1846 02:44:58,66 --> 02:45:01,94 geologic setting here we are living right near 1847 02:45:01,95 --> 02:45:08,68 a plate boundary and the ocean plate is diving below the continental plate and 1848 02:45:08,69 --> 02:45:13,13 there's two kinds of movement of the land surface and that's the intercessors mix 1849 02:45:13,14 --> 02:45:17,83 between earthquakes when the upper end of that plate is stuck to the deep plate 1850 02:45:17,84 --> 02:45:24,10 moves freely but the upper end is cool and brittle and sticks and while it's 1851 02:45:24,11 --> 02:45:29,94 sticking the plates are still moving and so the landscape to forms and some of it 1852 02:45:29,95 --> 02:45:33,38 goes down and some of it goes up the net effect is usually 1853 02:45:33,39 --> 02:45:38,09 a downward movement and then when the earthquake comes what they call Co seismic 1854 02:45:38,10 --> 02:45:44,91 movement that plate steps the the overlying plate jumps seaward and 1855 02:45:44,95 --> 02:45:50,81 up. And generally there's an uplift but sometimes 1856 02:45:50,82 --> 02:45:57,30 a down downward movement can happen as well and you can see where the tsunami comes 1857 02:45:57,31 --> 02:46:04,19 from. And. Most of the time the coast seismic or 1858 02:46:04,20 --> 02:46:10,58 what happens during the earthquakes is an uplifting of the land surface but it 1859 02:46:10,59 --> 02:46:14,31 doesn't it's not always that way and in the recent Japan Earthquake much of the 1860 02:46:14,32 --> 02:46:19,20 coastline settled quite a bit and is that and is now subject to 1861 02:46:19,28 --> 02:46:25,86 a lot of flooding and so this is something that can happen we don't know what will 1862 02:46:25,87 --> 02:46:30,58 happen in the next big earthquake but you can almost not worry about that too much 1863 02:46:31,33 --> 02:46:31,86 it's really 1864 02:46:31,87 --> 02:46:36,61 a huge hazard that we face here and maybe we'll all be gone when it happens or 1865 02:46:36,91 --> 02:46:40,89 maybe it'll happen in the very next moment but when it does that it's going to be 1866 02:46:40,90 --> 02:46:47,07 very dramatic and could strongly affect how sea level plays out around here. But in 1867 02:46:47,08 --> 02:46:50,58 the meantime we want to look at the inner seismic vertical uplift and there's 1868 02:46:50,59 --> 02:46:55,42 a whole group of people that are just really going at that now and don't use the. 1869 02:46:55,60 --> 02:47:01,27 Map but this is their initial gas is set and it's not all the same it's quite 1870 02:47:01,28 --> 02:47:05,65 a complex picture as you might imagine around here but the South Bay is dropping 1871 02:47:06,11 --> 02:47:10,66 and so this would exacerbate sealevel rise and the North Bay is rising these are 1872 02:47:10,70 --> 02:47:13,40 these figures are in millimeters but there's 1873 02:47:13,41 --> 02:47:18,07 a whole group working on that and I would expect that in about 1874 02:47:18,08 --> 02:47:22,79 a year they'll have this pretty well dial down and what is the inner seismic rate 1875 02:47:22,80 --> 02:47:29,37 of movement where what stropping what's rising and you absolutely have to know that 1876 02:47:29,41 --> 02:47:36,05 to know how sea levels are going to play out. For obvious reasons. And of course 1877 02:47:36,06 --> 02:47:39,65 when you have an increase in sea level it just kind of exacerbates those extreme 1878 02:47:39,66 --> 02:47:46,22 events years adding the elevation of sea level rise to. The other kinds of things 1879 02:47:46,23 --> 02:47:52,23 that bring that salt water ashore. And so me take you back about twenty thousand 1880 02:47:52,24 --> 02:47:58,23 years. The last glacial maximum was twenty to twenty two thousand years ago when 1881 02:47:58,24 --> 02:48:03,05 there was the most ice of the last Ice Age happened about then and then it began 1882 02:48:03,06 --> 02:48:09,76 melting and for. About thirteen fourteen thousand years it was 1883 02:48:10,65 --> 02:48:16,47 sea level was rising very rapidly. Things were changing very very quickly and then 1884 02:48:16,47 --> 02:48:21,67 . Unfortunately the top of the slide is cut off but at about seven thousand years 1885 02:48:21,68 --> 02:48:28,39 ago you could see it just stopped rising and leveled off. And this is very weird it 1886 02:48:28,40 --> 02:48:33,45 almost never happens in earth's history but it happened we've had seven thousand 1887 02:48:33,46 --> 02:48:37,84 years of stable sea level and this the ocean is all kind of 1888 02:48:37,85 --> 02:48:41,97 a generalized thermometer on the whole climate system of the earth and so that also 1889 02:48:41,98 --> 02:48:42,67 means that we've had 1890 02:48:42,68 --> 02:48:46,47 a stable little variability climate during that time of course this is 1891 02:48:46,48 --> 02:48:50,83 a very time when civilization developed and there's an argument 1892 02:48:50,84 --> 02:48:55,52 a strong argument that this actually facilitated the development of civilization 1893 02:48:56,03 --> 02:49:02,81 where coastal cities. Adjacent to very rich food resources. Around here 1894 02:49:02,82 --> 02:49:04,23 lots of omega three S. 1895 02:49:04,43 --> 02:49:05,83 You keep hearing you should be eating 1896 02:49:05,84 --> 02:49:11,41 a lot of. And cities that could stay in place for millennia that didn't have to 1897 02:49:11,42 --> 02:49:12,35 keep or treating with 1898 02:49:12,36 --> 02:49:16,22 a rapidly rising sea level but that's not what the talk is about but it's very 1899 02:49:16,23 --> 02:49:21,48 interesting and what's interesting is that we're used to this even though the 1900 02:49:21,61 --> 02:49:28,12 normal state of the earth is crazily jumping climate and rapidly changing sea level 1901 02:49:28,12 --> 02:49:33,83 . We've gotten very used to basically all of recorded history we've had 1902 02:49:33,84 --> 02:49:39,31 a big. A stable sea level but that's not normally how the earth behaves Here's 1903 02:49:39,32 --> 02:49:45,04 another plot of it and the other thing is most of the coasts coastal features that 1904 02:49:45,05 --> 02:49:50,87 you see now are just that old they developed in that period when sea level was 1905 02:49:50,88 --> 02:49:57,04 stable and you got this very broad depositional environment so humble pay is 1906 02:49:57,05 --> 02:50:02,79 basically you know five six thousand years old and all the big deltas of the world 1907 02:50:02,80 --> 02:50:09,76 are that old and most all of the coastal features that you see are I should 1908 02:50:09,77 --> 02:50:16,68 say that young because it's very very logically. And this is what kind of glacial 1909 02:50:16,69 --> 02:50:20,42 history looks like you have to go back about one hundred twenty five thousand years 1910 02:50:20,66 --> 02:50:25,13 for the last interglacial period or the last warm period like the one we're in now 1911 02:50:25,37 --> 02:50:30,81 and sea level was four to eight metres higher than it is currently there's some 1912 02:50:30,82 --> 02:50:36,03 debate about how high it was but it was definitely considerably higher than it is 1913 02:50:36,04 --> 02:50:41,49 now and you can see there was sort of the. Period where the slope of the change 1914 02:50:41,53 --> 02:50:46,74 leveled off some not quite like what we're seeing now but you can see that 1915 02:50:46,93 --> 02:50:51,22 basically the state the overall state of the earth is 1916 02:50:51,23 --> 02:50:58,10 a rapidly changing sea level. And so ten thousand years ago the coast was way 1917 02:50:58,11 --> 02:51:01,31 out from where it is now and we're at a high stand what's called 1918 02:51:01,32 --> 02:51:06,78 a high standard of sea level at present where the continental shelf which used to 1919 02:51:06,79 --> 02:51:13,50 be exposed in terrestrial is now in dated. And this is some work that 1920 02:51:13,51 --> 02:51:19,58 Danny O'Shea did showing where the coast probably was and you can see the blue line 1921 02:51:19,59 --> 02:51:25,94 there. This is about eighteen thousand years ago where that coastline was here so 1922 02:51:25,95 --> 02:51:30,40 if you started in arcade instead of walking for miles to get to the beach you'd 1923 02:51:30,41 --> 02:51:35,94 have to walk about fifteen miles. And then this is how it developed over time and 1924 02:51:35,95 --> 02:51:41,01 then about five thousand years ago the ocean was right up against here and then in 1925 02:51:41,02 --> 02:51:45,01 the intervening time these depositional features like humble pay and that you River 1926 02:51:45,02 --> 02:51:48,59 Delta formed and the over Delta it's also 1927 02:51:48,60 --> 02:51:52,93 a whole scene Delta very very young and therefore very vulnerable. 1928 02:51:55,83 --> 02:51:56,86 And you have this kind of 1929 02:51:56,87 --> 02:52:03,41 a picture. With stable sea level these coastal depositional features that lead to 1930 02:52:03,42 --> 02:52:10,36 very rich environments have formed. Well that's over the stable 1931 02:52:10,37 --> 02:52:14,96 sea level began ending right about the time of the Industrial Revolution when 1932 02:52:14,97 --> 02:52:16,34 humans speak and putting out 1933 02:52:16,35 --> 02:52:23,14 a lot of greenhouse gases and it looks like our long period seven thousand year 1934 02:52:23,15 --> 02:52:29,46 period of stable sea level has ended. And it is trending upward quite quickly. 1935 02:52:30,53 --> 02:52:37,39 And the predictions are quite varied. For several reasons one we don't know 1936 02:52:37,40 --> 02:52:43,03 how much carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases we will humans will admit and 1937 02:52:43,04 --> 02:52:45,75 also we don't know what the ice will do there's 1938 02:52:45,76 --> 02:52:51,69 a lot of uncertainty and as to what will happen with the continental ice. The 1939 02:52:51,70 --> 02:52:57,35 Pacific Institute. Study is what this state of California is going with and so we 1940 02:52:57,36 --> 02:53:03,62 kind of have we have that one point four meter seal the rise by twenty one hundred 1941 02:53:03,63 --> 02:53:06,08 to kind of as kind of a benchmark that's 1942 02:53:06,09 --> 02:53:11,51 a gas not everyone would agree with that there are some credible. 1943 02:53:13,02 --> 02:53:17,59 Scientists that say two meters is more prudent to work with but this is kids kind 1944 02:53:17,60 --> 02:53:22,08 of our benchmark in California now and it's going to be very useful for planning 1945 02:53:22,41 --> 02:53:29,11 exercises. And this is the big uncertainty is we 1946 02:53:29,69 --> 02:53:34,64 of course in recorded history we have no observations of rapid melting of 1947 02:53:34,65 --> 02:53:39,01 continental ice and certainly in the scientific era we have no observations of that 1948 02:53:39,29 --> 02:53:44,89 and it's also crazy complicated to model it's very difficult to. 1949 02:53:46,12 --> 02:53:48,81 Do models when you don't have observations or you don't have 1950 02:53:48,82 --> 02:53:51,40 a history of this stuff happening and there's also 1951 02:53:51,41 --> 02:53:55,46 a lot of mechanics that have never been worked out before so people are working on 1952 02:53:55,47 --> 02:53:56,89 this very hard but there's 1953 02:53:56,90 --> 02:54:01,60 a lot of uncertainty about what the continental ice will do mainly Greenland and 1954 02:54:01,61 --> 02:54:08,14 the Antarctic ice sheets so this is the big. Black box. The big uncertainty. 1955 02:54:10,54 --> 02:54:17,00 And this is the present rate of increase shown relative to the post-glacial 1956 02:54:17,68 --> 02:54:24,67 record. And you can see that it hasn't approached. The post-glacial 1957 02:54:25,24 --> 02:54:31,83 seal the rise rates but is expected to so this is expected to steep in the near 1958 02:54:31,84 --> 02:54:37,88 future and approach and even exceed the rates that were seen. During that. 1959 02:54:39,33 --> 02:54:46,06 Period after the last ice age was ending. And what 1960 02:54:46,65 --> 02:54:53,03 causes. Climate scientists and climate savvy people to really lose sleep is the 1961 02:54:53,04 --> 02:54:57,87 fact that there can be very rapid changes and this has been seen in recent work. 1962 02:54:59,09 --> 02:55:05,12 Reconstructions of global temperature in Greenland and what not and the climate 1963 02:55:05,13 --> 02:55:11,35 system is is non-linear which means that the outputs are not directly proportional 1964 02:55:11,36 --> 02:55:16,49 to the inputs it's chock full of feedback loops and complex interactions that are 1965 02:55:16,50 --> 02:55:23,09 only partially understood and it is very subject to tipping points or 1966 02:55:23,13 --> 02:55:27,96 unpredictable places where a small change in puts will result in 1967 02:55:27,97 --> 02:55:33,33 a very large response and so it's just not known what might cause large increases 1968 02:55:33,34 --> 02:55:39,79 in melt water but that it isn't is expected that that could happen but 1969 02:55:40,47 --> 02:55:44,12 a quantitative prediction of that is not possible at this time so these are 1970 02:55:44,13 --> 02:55:49,73 meltwater pulses and you can see that rate of sea level rise can go very quickly 1971 02:55:49,74 --> 02:55:52,26 for periods of time where you could have 1972 02:55:52,27 --> 02:55:56,58 a few decades where things are changing really really fast and we just hope that 1973 02:55:56,59 --> 02:56:02,27 that's not going to happen in the near future and so it's not really the union 1974 02:56:02,28 --> 02:56:03,50 Dacian that gets you there's 1975 02:56:03,51 --> 02:56:10,48 a salt water intrusion and what happens with with super storms. The ground water 1976 02:56:10,49 --> 02:56:15,56 can become sailing as seals or does become salient as sea level rises I don't think 1977 02:56:15,57 --> 02:56:22,43 we really depend on Near Coastal groundwater here in many places. But those places 1978 02:56:22,44 --> 02:56:26,62 where it does its it that's what happens first your ground water becomes salty and 1979 02:56:26,63 --> 02:56:33,49 you have to move or find another source of water. This is the Mekong Delta. I've 1980 02:56:33,50 --> 02:56:40,15 been doing some work and. This is what. People what it looks like where people 1981 02:56:40,16 --> 02:56:46,47 live there and in the last thirty years. Salt water from the South China Sea has 1982 02:56:46,48 --> 02:56:51,15 gone from coming in about ten kilometers into the delta to about thirty kilometers 1983 02:56:52,08 --> 02:56:56,46 just with the sea level rise that we've had so far and this really really changes 1984 02:56:56,47 --> 02:57:03,24 things. And then the super storms and this is what really makes it real 1985 02:57:03,78 --> 02:57:08,82 not so much the slow rising oceans but what happens when the extreme events come 1986 02:57:08,83 --> 02:57:12,80 along and storm surge is really the big one so 1987 02:57:12,81 --> 02:57:17,39 a super storm Sandy back east you're looking at nine to twelve feet of storm surge 1988 02:57:17,39 --> 02:57:23,03 . And those kinds of storm surges are not as high here. 1989 02:57:24,20 --> 02:57:28,47 Maybe looking at you know four five six feet in 1990 02:57:28,48 --> 02:57:35,01 a really really big storm surge event here but also large waves this can 1991 02:57:35,27 --> 02:57:39,79 correspond with spring tides when the earth and the moon are lined up or 1992 02:57:39,80 --> 02:57:44,27 a pair of jean spring tides which are called king tides when the moon is closest to 1993 02:57:44,28 --> 02:57:49,03 the earth in its orbit and then freshwater flooding when these all come together 1994 02:57:49,04 --> 02:57:50,54 you get kind of the perfect storm or 1995 02:57:50,55 --> 02:57:56,69 a super storm and that's when the sea level rise will be most noticeable is the 1996 02:57:56,70 --> 02:58:02,36 extremes will inundate areas that they didn't before. I'm just looking at 1997 02:58:02,37 --> 02:58:07,08 a few places in the world these are the Orinoco and the Amazon deltas these are 1998 02:58:07,09 --> 02:58:13,90 Holocene deltas and very vulnerable Here's the Yukon in the Mackenzie these 1999 02:58:14,20 --> 02:58:14,50 are not 2000 02:58:14,51 --> 02:58:19,03 a lot of people there some but they have places to retreat to the probably actually 2001 02:58:19,04 --> 02:58:25,96 have better fish habitat here. In Northern Europe some severe vulnerability 2002 02:58:25,97 --> 02:58:32,47 in the Netherlands and Denmark and on the east coast of Great Britain. This is 2003 02:58:32,48 --> 02:58:36,56 perhaps the most vulnerable part of the world you can see the Mekong Delta there 2004 02:58:36,60 --> 02:58:41,59 has the. Greatest potential vulnerability in terms of the number of people affected 2005 02:58:41,80 --> 02:58:45,63 and the food security issues with that but also 2006 02:58:45,64 --> 02:58:50,34 a lot of Indonesia's highly vulnerable and the lower end of Thailand highly 2007 02:58:50,35 --> 02:58:56,53 vulnerable. And of course the kind of the poster child is Bangladesh and 2008 02:58:56,88 --> 02:59:03,81 Burma. Very vulnerable areas. And here's Saigon coming up twice in 2009 02:59:03,82 --> 02:59:08,73 one night what's now called what human city just looking at what happens in 2010 02:59:08,74 --> 02:59:11,83 a thirty year flood and twenty six centimeters a C.L.O. 2011 02:59:11,84 --> 02:59:17,28 Rise and some storm surge and most of the city is under water so they're very 2012 02:59:17,29 --> 02:59:23,46 serious about that about this in Vietnam there's no denial thing going on there in 2013 02:59:23,47 --> 02:59:30,30 Asia that I can see that's kind of an American goodie. But yeah they're 2014 02:59:30,31 --> 02:59:37,15 really very worried about this. The Nile Delta. It's also 2015 02:59:37,16 --> 02:59:41,48 Holocene Delta and the outer edge of the Nile delta goes under water it just one 2016 02:59:41,49 --> 02:59:48,34 meter of sea level rise Alexandria is highly vulnerable. And bringing it 2017 02:59:48,35 --> 02:59:53,72 closer to home if you look at the south and the eastern coast of the U.S. 2018 02:59:54,30 --> 02:59:59,24 Far more vulnerable than the West Coast they don't have tectonics that's jacking 2019 02:59:59,25 --> 03:00:06,09 their landscape up and they're very low lying and then 2020 03:00:06,13 --> 03:00:10,75 Hurricane Katrina and Superstorm Sandy is sort of vivid demonstrations of what can 2021 03:00:10,76 --> 03:00:16,42 happen when salt water comes ashore and most of the federal science and modeling 2022 03:00:16,43 --> 03:00:21,78 effort is going to these areas it's not coming here I think we do have adequate 2023 03:00:21,79 --> 03:00:26,87 sort of science staffing but when you when you look for data and model runs and 2024 03:00:26,88 --> 03:00:31,50 whatnot you usually find them for Louisiana or Delaware or Florida. 2025 03:00:35,49 --> 03:00:41,58 And then what happens here obviously the Delta is one of the most complex water 2026 03:00:41,59 --> 03:00:48,37 contacts. Ever known and when you add sea level rise to it it gets even more 2027 03:00:48,38 --> 03:00:55,31 complex and lots of inundation. In the bay Delta area and then even closer to 2028 03:00:55,32 --> 03:01:00,38 home our larger barrier. SPETZ. 2029 03:01:02,06 --> 03:01:07,03 Should be able to survive even the worst case some of the worst case scenarios for 2030 03:01:07,04 --> 03:01:12,24 the next century there are some worst case scenarios where they might not but these 2031 03:01:12,25 --> 03:01:18,50 will probably survive just fine. This is what the river delta looks like with two 2032 03:01:18,51 --> 03:01:20,15 meters of sea level rise and this is just 2033 03:01:20,16 --> 03:01:25,60 a bath tub model just looking at the elevations of the landscape and adding that 2034 03:01:25,61 --> 03:01:32,53 much to sea level not looking at storm surge or any of those things or changes in 2035 03:01:32,57 --> 03:01:38,82 land level so these models have to be carefully qualified and then you can see the 2036 03:01:38,83 --> 03:01:45,10 South Bay effect. And again another look at the 2037 03:01:45,11 --> 03:01:47,73 overall local effect and we'll zoom in 2038 03:01:47,74 --> 03:01:51,71 a little bit more and these are the this is the hazard mapping that the Pacific 2039 03:01:51,72 --> 03:01:58,71 Institute has done. And these maps are all available. I think for 2040 03:01:58,72 --> 03:02:03,69 planning purposes here and I want to pull these hazards apart and look at storm 2041 03:02:03,70 --> 03:02:07,84 surge say independently from freshwater flooding and whatnot but they're all kind 2042 03:02:07,85 --> 03:02:13,04 of put together at this point and light blue is the current area is at risk so 2043 03:02:13,05 --> 03:02:13,20 there's 2044 03:02:13,21 --> 03:02:21,15 a lot of lunar ability now and then. What is that Chartreuse. Those 2045 03:02:21,16 --> 03:02:25,18 are the areas that would be. Vulnerable with 2046 03:02:25,19 --> 03:02:30,83 a meter and one point four meters of sea level rise. And zooming in on Arcade 2047 03:02:30,84 --> 03:02:34,29 a little bit you would want to be planning on this map but this is just to 2048 03:02:34,33 --> 03:02:40,97 illustrate. That the deep basically the you know the low lying areas of Arcadia 2049 03:02:40,98 --> 03:02:46,15 are quite long oval. And this is the same kind of mapping with 2050 03:02:46,16 --> 03:02:52,77 a little bit different color scheme. But again the lighter blue being the areas 2051 03:02:52,78 --> 03:02:59,47 that are vulnerable now to one hundred basically one hundred year. Flood scenario 2052 03:02:59,51 --> 03:03:06,10 with high storm surge freshwater flooding high tide. And looking at the darker blue 2053 03:03:06,11 --> 03:03:12,61 what happens to that hazard with one point four meters of sea level rise and North 2054 03:03:12,62 --> 03:03:18,46 arcade This includes flooding from the Mad River you know hundred year scenario as 2055 03:03:18,47 --> 03:03:25,40 well. And this is what it looks like in Eureka. Again 2056 03:03:25,63 --> 03:03:32,56 margins the low lying areas. Recently the vulnerable ones. This 2057 03:03:32,57 --> 03:03:39,26 is some mapping of the artificial shoreline that all around layer dead. On and I 2058 03:03:39,27 --> 03:03:41,32 shared agenda at the summit on 2059 03:03:41,33 --> 03:03:48,20 a restoration conference and for to know this weekend and I. Exchanged slides 2060 03:03:48,45 --> 03:03:52,16 and you know I'm sure you read about all the Ron's walkabout and he's mapped all 2061 03:03:52,17 --> 03:03:57,49 this artificial shoreline is dikes and levees and everything else and the red ones 2062 03:03:57,50 --> 03:04:04,10 are the one Sattar now that are prone to leaking and failure in large tide 2063 03:04:04,11 --> 03:04:11,04 events and then this is what happens with. I think two three feet of sea 2064 03:04:11,05 --> 03:04:17,74 level rise excuse me so much more of the artificial shoreline becomes 2065 03:04:18,17 --> 03:04:24,83 vulnerable becomes prone to leakage and failure. And then again this is 2066 03:04:25,13 --> 03:04:31,44 another one of her own slides but. Just broad listing of. 2067 03:04:32,54 --> 03:04:34,77 What's. What's 2068 03:04:34,78 --> 03:04:38,42 a vulnerable and what's in the way of sea level rise and that is quite 2069 03:04:38,43 --> 03:04:43,29 a lot. And I guess the message here is there's 2070 03:04:43,72 --> 03:04:50,05 a fair amount of vulnerability to our area and each of these different types of. 2071 03:04:51,04 --> 03:04:56,46 Uses and infrastructure would require different thinking in terms of what their 2072 03:04:56,47 --> 03:05:03,06 response might be. In terms of how how how well they would tolerate the extreme 2073 03:05:03,07 --> 03:05:08,82 events inundation what their value is what it would cost to respond 2074 03:05:10,87 --> 03:05:16,67 and so what do we do about it. And my friend. 2075 03:05:18,44 --> 03:05:24,84 You can see this is off the screen but. The wonderful philosophy professor from 2076 03:05:24,88 --> 03:05:30,10 Oregon State says we need to think about pre silly ants so resilience is 2077 03:05:30,11 --> 03:05:33,94 a wonderful term but it means to jump back it means to go back to what you were 2078 03:05:33,95 --> 03:05:39,50 before and really we're out we're out in front of our headlights on this we're 2079 03:05:39,55 --> 03:05:45,73 going into states of conditions that we haven't ever seen before and so really need 2080 03:05:45,74 --> 03:05:50,88 to be thinking about precisely and soar having resilience to what's coming not 2081 03:05:51,03 --> 03:05:57,14 jumping back to what was and it's kind of just an interesting concept. So 2082 03:05:57,86 --> 03:06:04,66 it's no mystery what we can do. The things that we can do are about the same 2083 03:06:04,83 --> 03:06:09,86 We've been humans have been fighting against coastal energy for as long as there 2084 03:06:09,87 --> 03:06:11,37 have been humans on the coast it's 2085 03:06:11,38 --> 03:06:15,57 a high energy environment and there's lots and lots of techniques and technology 2086 03:06:15,58 --> 03:06:19,93 developed the first thing that you need to do is vulnerability assessments and this 2087 03:06:19,94 --> 03:06:26,27 is ongoing this is still the rise has been engaged big time in our area and there's 2088 03:06:26,28 --> 03:06:31,43 lots of efforts several efforts going in our area to do these vulnerability 2089 03:06:31,44 --> 03:06:36,16 assessments and it's really where you must start if you want resilience you have to 2090 03:06:36,17 --> 03:06:40,59 figure out what's wrong rable and what isn't and all the other considerations so 2091 03:06:40,60 --> 03:06:45,71 that just one fewer through these other things. We say we have to keep track of 2092 03:06:45,72 --> 03:06:49,65 what the local and elevations are doing know what they're doing and keep track of 2093 03:06:49,66 --> 03:06:55,79 that. Encourage the biological accretion processes and coastal complexity. 2094 03:06:57,19 --> 03:07:01,17 We can take advantage of these inundations to create better fish habitat Actually 2095 03:07:01,18 --> 03:07:05,64 there are some actually opportunity here if we will take advantage of it if we can 2096 03:07:05,65 --> 03:07:12,41 afford to take advantage of it. And then the standard response is to resist 2097 03:07:12,54 --> 03:07:19,06 is to put up sea walls or dikes and levees and growing and revetments 2098 03:07:19,65 --> 03:07:20,73 and this will be 2099 03:07:21,10 --> 03:07:26,44 a reasonable risk. Hans in some cases in other cases it's not something you can do 2100 03:07:26,45 --> 03:07:33,14 everywhere. Most likely. And you can retreat. And this is 2101 03:07:33,15 --> 03:07:40,08 something that. Will happen in many places. Various forms of coastal 2102 03:07:40,09 --> 03:07:46,09 restoration and defense. Reducing coastal substance erosion and land use 2103 03:07:46,86 --> 03:07:51,43 managing flows from reservoirs you can actually push salt water back with releasing 2104 03:07:51,44 --> 03:07:54,28 fresh water flows not a big deal here but it is 2105 03:07:54,29 --> 03:08:00,58 a big deal and say the bay Delta or in the Mekong. Moving impediments to upward 2106 03:08:00,59 --> 03:08:06,91 movement so species as these ecosystems change species are generally good at 2107 03:08:06,92 --> 03:08:11,41 migrating and moving except that they run into improvements like dikes and levees 2108 03:08:12,26 --> 03:08:16,68 and if you want those to naturally migrate you have to kind of get out of their way 2109 03:08:16,69 --> 03:08:23,21 and let them do it. And then relocate in to adapt infrastructure and so on so 2110 03:08:23,51 --> 03:08:29,67 it's no mystery what our responses can be we know how to do this stuff so it's not 2111 03:08:29,68 --> 03:08:34,04 like we have to develop all new technologies to deal with this this is this is kind 2112 03:08:34,05 --> 03:08:40,78 of well trod ground it's just the stakes are raised. And I just wanted to mention 2113 03:08:40,79 --> 03:08:47,34 that. Other than being done having vulnerability to sea level rise 2114 03:08:47,65 --> 03:08:54,13 although you know we're not Alexandria or the Mekong Delta or even New York or 2115 03:08:54,14 --> 03:08:56,16 Miami we have it 2116 03:08:56,17 --> 03:09:01,38 a lot easier because we don't have quite so I don't have you know cities in the way 2117 03:09:02,15 --> 03:09:02,71 but we do have 2118 03:09:02,72 --> 03:09:08,40 a considerable vulnerability but beyond that we are probably you can probably think 2119 03:09:08,41 --> 03:09:09,29 of this area as 2120 03:09:09,30 --> 03:09:15,60 a climate refuge. And the reason being is that the protected temperature increases 2121 03:09:15,94 --> 03:09:19,21 are less and less as you approach the coast and when you get to the coast there the 2122 03:09:19,22 --> 03:09:25,44 least and so the predicted temperature increase say and Utah Idaho is two to three 2123 03:09:25,45 --> 03:09:32,11 times what it is on the coast here. So that the thermal impact 2124 03:09:32,47 --> 03:09:37,59 of climate changes least on the coastal areas we also don't depend on snow for our 2125 03:09:37,60 --> 03:09:38,79 water supply there is 2126 03:09:38,80 --> 03:09:43,28 a component of snow but it's quite insignificant so our water supply is OK That's 2127 03:09:43,29 --> 03:09:44,22 not true and in 2128 03:09:44,23 --> 03:09:50,12 a lot of California but it's true here. We get enough rainfall to saturate our 2129 03:09:50,13 --> 03:09:55,32 soils even in drought conditions we don't have high elevations where the. 2130 03:09:57,45 --> 03:10:04,45 Warming is is greatest. And we'll probably have more fog and kind 2131 03:10:04,46 --> 03:10:09,58 of that we don't really know what will happen with fog but the likelihood is that 2132 03:10:09,59 --> 03:10:15,87 they'll be more fog not less. Press that went out on that not withstanding that was 2133 03:10:15,88 --> 03:10:22,01 probably not correct but we're probably have more fog here. And so we can look at 2134 03:10:22,02 --> 03:10:25,19 this area other than the sea level rise effect as 2135 03:10:25,20 --> 03:10:31,81 a climate refuge. And we might even have. You know in coming 2136 03:10:31,82 --> 03:10:37,69 decades some climate refugees. When Utah is because burning up. 2137 03:10:39,69 --> 03:10:45,68 Let's move. So. 2138 03:10:48,57 --> 03:10:49,01 I guess for 2139 03:10:49,02 --> 03:10:53,09 a few takeaways we have substantial hazards now lots of you are vulnerable 2140 03:10:53,10 --> 03:10:59,06 infrastructure and uses and the. Logical thing to do is vulnerability assessments. 2141 03:11:00,38 --> 03:11:05,22 And the subtraction earthquake will happen and it will change the situation but we 2142 03:11:05,23 --> 03:11:10,52 don't know how. And there are big uncertainties and we can deal with that was 2143 03:11:10,53 --> 03:11:17,48 scenario. Those or doing what ifs. And being prepared the more you prepared the 2144 03:11:17,49 --> 03:11:23,65 less suffering in the last cost these impacts so. Thank you. 2145 03:11:24,97 --> 03:11:30,99 Thank you for the great presentation so question we just had 2146 03:11:31,00 --> 03:11:37,89 a whole semester into minutes what you do all the time. What are Ranger 2147 03:11:37,90 --> 03:11:43,60 predictions on changes in rainfall here the rainfall predictions are 2148 03:11:44,21 --> 03:11:49,93 highly unreliable but all the models show that the middle latitudes have the least 2149 03:11:49,94 --> 03:11:53,60 change and it probably means that we'll see 2150 03:11:54,27 --> 03:11:58,27 a greater variability in rainfall but probably not 2151 03:11:58,28 --> 03:12:00,87 a lot of change in rainfall but rainfall is 2152 03:12:00,88 --> 03:12:06,83 a threshold effect and is very much more difficult to predict and temperature. As 2153 03:12:07,24 --> 03:12:12,99 you see the weather man making you know the three degree challenge that's because 2154 03:12:13,00 --> 03:12:18,35 temperatures easy you'll never see them doing that with the rain. And it's the same 2155 03:12:18,36 --> 03:12:21,76 with the climate system rainfall it's very difficult to predict in 2156 03:12:21,77 --> 03:12:27,83 a general way wet areas get wet or dry areas get dry or wet seasons get wet or dry 2157 03:12:27,84 --> 03:12:33,79 seasons get drier so they kind of the knob goes up on the whole system but. The 2158 03:12:33,83 --> 03:12:38,49 range of variability that we have in rainfall now that predicted changes are well 2159 03:12:38,50 --> 03:12:42,01 within that range not true of temperature we get into 2160 03:12:42,01 --> 03:12:47,29 a whole new world in terms of temperature outside the range of variability. 2161 03:12:52,28 --> 03:12:57,01 Any other questions or comment. That's 2162 03:12:57,02 --> 03:13:01,17 a great presentation so it will be available to the public they want to really 2163 03:13:01,18 --> 03:13:06,62 watch this and share it with other people on our website so I mean for you 2164 03:13:06,63 --> 03:13:10,10 mentioned it mark at the beginning where oh we're doing what we can as 2165 03:13:10,11 --> 03:13:14,49 a city in terms of participating in this you know in our regional effort around 2166 03:13:14,50 --> 03:13:18,96 humble Bay and then also in terms of integrating what we're learning here and 2167 03:13:18,97 --> 03:13:21,43 through this effort in the L.C.P. 2168 03:13:21,44 --> 03:13:26,56 Update our local coastal program update so I think we're we're having some new 2169 03:13:26,57 --> 03:13:30,20 ground in that regard because I think we're in a position to be ahead of 2170 03:13:30,21 --> 03:13:36,02 a lot of other coastal cities so we're trying to do that so I mean much of what 2171 03:13:36,03 --> 03:13:38,36 Mark's been able to do over the years is implement 2172 03:13:38,37 --> 03:13:43,69 a retreat strategy in putting those winds along our coastline and permanent 2173 03:13:43,70 --> 03:13:47,98 protective status so I think we're we're doing the best we can A lot of ways and. 2174 03:13:49,17 --> 03:13:50,67 Thanks those great presentation 2175 03:13:50,68 --> 03:13:54,46 a lot of information that thanks so much for having me and thanks to council and 2176 03:13:54,58 --> 03:13:59,77 council member are now US and director I'm ready for giving me the opportunity to 2177 03:13:59,78 --> 03:14:06,52 do so yeah just one of my thoughts was I wanted to share this information with 2178 03:14:07,47 --> 03:14:10,18 other boards were on I mean I think we have 2179 03:14:10,19 --> 03:14:13,94 a plan for you to talk to the red Coast Energy Authority and because I just felt 2180 03:14:13,95 --> 03:14:18,59 like this is just important to share I like how you presented it you know pretty 2181 03:14:18,60 --> 03:14:23,45 equally I don't think it would create arguments really and I just wanted us to be 2182 03:14:23,46 --> 03:14:27,94 able to talk about the subject with the same kind of background and understanding 2183 03:14:27,95 --> 03:14:33,10 so that we can you know you know have discussions about energy and things like that 2184 03:14:33,10 --> 03:14:40,07 . Without you know. With us all being able to be reasonably informed and whatever 2185 03:14:40,08 --> 03:14:43,91 we can get out of that so so I'm just suggesting that if you think that this kind 2186 03:14:43,92 --> 03:14:46,35 of presentation might work at 2187 03:14:46,39 --> 03:14:50,23 a particular board you're on I think think I'm hoping to get you to H. 2188 03:14:50,24 --> 03:14:53,46 Coggan rigid coast in. The authority but there you know and those are maybe two 2189 03:14:53,47 --> 03:14:56,53 main ones because it's called being transportation and all the carbon and the 2190 03:14:56,54 --> 03:15:00,68 greenhouse gases all that stuff and but that's that's is the thought that I had 2191 03:15:00,86 --> 03:15:04,27 just to just to kind of kind of bring all of us up to this so we can all talk about 2192 03:15:04,28 --> 03:15:07,50 this on the same. Discussion Well it's 2193 03:15:07,51 --> 03:15:14,44 a good idea. All right I'm just one of the missing that microphone as he 2194 03:15:14,45 --> 03:15:14,75 gave it 2195 03:15:14,76 --> 03:15:21,21 a lecture at the margin target of center and last year and it's and I apologize for 2196 03:15:21,22 --> 03:15:25,07 the screen being a little split up here and he's able to use 2197 03:15:25,08 --> 03:15:28,77 a stick more robustly on that slide show when it's the full It's 2198 03:15:28,78 --> 03:15:34,08 a full hour with more detail so that's on our website on granite this is titled 2199 03:15:35,00 --> 03:15:41,84 slow motion flood rapid sea level change on the north coast and also. Mike 2200 03:15:41,88 --> 03:15:44,26 founded the climate change resource center for the U.S. 2201 03:15:44,27 --> 03:15:49,61 Forest Service and you can google that and find many other lectures about climate 2202 03:15:49,62 --> 03:15:56,59 change. Effects on ecosystems and fire regimes. On the federal website 2203 03:15:57,30 --> 03:16:01,17 and one of those lectures was given at the march interpretive center by Dr Connie 2204 03:16:01,18 --> 03:16:07,53 Melor one of one of your colleagues and. Really high quality very equal. 2205 03:16:09,56 --> 03:16:13,05 Rights thank you is there any member of the public who would like to comment on 2206 03:16:13,06 --> 03:16:19,67 this all right saying no thanks again thank you and I enjoyed your presentation at 2207 03:16:19,69 --> 03:16:23,59 the marsh when you did that all right next time so it's getting 2208 03:16:23,60 --> 03:16:28,53 a lot more to you so I'm thinking you know are you retired or not. 2209 03:16:30,50 --> 03:16:37,37 Well. So you have time to go around and do presentations 2210 03:16:38,11 --> 03:16:45,01 I love. I love to. Everyone I know who supposedly retired when you ask them they 2211 03:16:45,02 --> 03:16:45,76 paused for 2212 03:16:45,77 --> 03:16:52,50 a moment. Yeah you can't work and. Thanks for everything you do 2213 03:16:53,05 --> 03:16:59,74 thank you thank you Mike. All right that brings us to new business be consider 2214 03:16:59,75 --> 03:17:01,37 authorizing the mayor to sign 2215 03:17:01,38 --> 03:17:05,92 a statement of California mayors united against Proposition eight and the courage 2216 03:17:05,93 --> 03:17:11,04 campaigns request for the city to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and 2217 03:17:11,05 --> 03:17:13,99 twenty seven twenty thirteen we please have 2218 03:17:14,00 --> 03:17:20,45 a staff report. Thank you yes Rick Jacobs the chair and founder of the Courage 2219 03:17:20,46 --> 03:17:25,76 Campaign in the Courage Campaign Institute has contacted mayor Brenton requesting 2220 03:17:25,77 --> 03:17:31,92 that the city of our kid to fly the L G B T pride rainbow flag at city hall on 2221 03:17:31,93 --> 03:17:38,54 March twenty sixth and twenty seventh staff to do research in the flag pole at City 2222 03:17:38,55 --> 03:17:44,83 Hall has attachment for three flags and. A flag 2223 03:17:44,84 --> 03:17:50,18 a specifically designated to fly City Hall by Council Resolution eight seven 2224 03:17:50,19 --> 03:17:56,88 a dash five one so staff would recommend and I haven't talked with Rick 2225 03:17:56,89 --> 03:18:01,29 Jacobs to see if he would concur but staff would recommend that if if Council 2226 03:18:01,30 --> 03:18:05,52 wishes to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and twenty seventh and I might 2227 03:18:05,53 --> 03:18:11,50 add that this is when the the Supreme Court hears Hollingsworth the Perry which 2228 03:18:11,51 --> 03:18:16,37 challenges the constitutionality of California's Proposition eight and us 2229 03:18:16,38 --> 03:18:22,77 a v Windsor which concerns the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act So 2230 03:18:22,78 --> 03:18:27,57 if counsel wishes to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and twenty seven 2231 03:18:28,38 --> 03:18:35,32 staff with suggested Council consider flying it on the plaza and we could maybe 2232 03:18:35,33 --> 03:18:36,64 take down the earth flag for 2233 03:18:36,65 --> 03:18:43,09 a couple of days but it's certainly up to the council. The earth flag is not set by 2234 03:18:43,10 --> 03:18:48,53 resolution the way the prisoners of war flag is Clear Act correct and their flag is 2235 03:18:48,54 --> 03:18:55,13 not set by resolution All right thank you. I see the 2236 03:18:55,14 --> 03:19:00,80 budget item hundred dollars to purchase I think that's an estimate I'm actually 2237 03:19:00,81 --> 03:19:05,66 looking and if you all want to do this I'm looking and take borrowing one but I 2238 03:19:05,67 --> 03:19:07,94 would need to know the proportions because I know it needs to be 2239 03:19:07,95 --> 03:19:12,67 a certain size it is an estimate I just went on the Internet and looked at prices 2240 03:19:12,77 --> 03:19:16,60 and that's how I estimated So you know if we think that we would check to see if we 2241 03:19:16,61 --> 03:19:23,46 could borrow one if not we could order one and have it shipped here you know by you 2242 03:19:23,47 --> 03:19:29,55 know overnight whether by by the time I'm next week right I think we could probably 2243 03:19:29,56 --> 03:19:36,10 find one locally. I think I recall seeing one at Baton Rouge or one of these events 2244 03:19:36,10 --> 03:19:42,73 we've had so sure it's out there. So helpful. So I'm 2245 03:19:42,75 --> 03:19:48,39 supportive or it makes sense to put it on the plaza where the earth flag is for two 2246 03:19:48,40 --> 03:19:53,88 days OK. All right great. I might also add that through 2247 03:19:53,89 --> 03:19:58,38 a recommendation authorized the mayor to join this statement of California mayors 2248 03:19:58,39 --> 03:20:02,99 united against Proposition eight I believe last year or Winkler signed that So 2249 03:20:02,100 --> 03:20:05,70 they're asking for mayors this year as well to cite that. 2250 03:20:09,78 --> 03:20:16,72 Right here. Statement of yours yes this is. 2251 03:20:19,19 --> 03:20:25,61 Do you want to include anything about the fighting the flag also just like I. Mean 2252 03:20:25,61 --> 03:20:30,18 . It's. Arts. 2253 03:20:34,58 --> 03:20:36,98 Second right we have a motion and 2254 03:20:36,99 --> 03:20:41,41 a second is there any member of the public who would like to comment. And doesn't 2255 03:20:41,42 --> 03:20:48,27 look like it any other discussion all those in favor say aye. And he opposed motion 2256 03:20:48,28 --> 03:20:54,09 carries Thank you. I just point out that there is 2257 03:20:54,10 --> 03:21:00,45 a L G B T caucus within the league California cities and when they established that 2258 03:21:00,49 --> 03:21:05,11 they had to get regional representation so Michael Markey and I were the folks from 2259 03:21:05,12 --> 03:21:12,11 the Redwood. Had to support that so and that's still stands 2260 03:21:12,24 --> 03:21:19,21 so cool Well thanks for doing that all right so that moves us to see under 2261 03:21:19,22 --> 03:21:24,26 new business consider accepting public safety realignment grant funds in the amount 2262 03:21:24,27 --> 03:21:29,24 of one hundred twenty two thousand five hundred seventy four dollars and approve 2263 03:21:29,25 --> 03:21:34,50 the city of Arcadia as the fiduciary agent for the grant funds and we please have 2264 03:21:34,51 --> 03:21:39,79 a staff report hearing Council thank you for having me here this evening. 2265 03:21:41,41 --> 03:21:48,35 My intent was to update the Council on. Realignment and some of the 2266 03:21:48,36 --> 03:21:52,86 impacts that we've seen in our community and then regionally. 2267 03:21:55,23 --> 03:22:01,21 Before I do that there's really there's two actions or one action that I'm asking 2268 03:22:01,22 --> 03:22:07,97 the council to take and I. It's part of the budget process the governor. 2269 03:22:09,23 --> 03:22:15,23 Allocated what's called realignment and grant funds initial allocation from the one 2270 03:22:15,24 --> 03:22:22,09 zero nine went to. What are called C C T's community 2271 03:22:22,10 --> 03:22:25,90 correction partnerships and you'll see in the staff report there's lots of acronyms 2272 03:22:25,91 --> 03:22:32,23 and just stop me if I if I jump on acronyms and you're not understanding what I'm 2273 03:22:32,24 --> 03:22:34,97 saying but the C.C.P. 2274 03:22:35,11 --> 03:22:36,15 Was established 2275 03:22:36,19 --> 03:22:41,64 a community correction partnership was established locally in there are some 2276 03:22:41,90 --> 03:22:48,88 mandates on who's represented and this was essentially to get the realignment 2277 03:22:48,89 --> 03:22:55,82 process going at the county level. Just for the 2278 03:22:55,83 --> 03:23:01,54 sake of so we're all in the same page realignment essentially 2279 03:23:02,17 --> 03:23:08,21 changed the function of. Primarily the 2280 03:23:08,22 --> 03:23:15,05 corrections side of public safety or of the criminal justice system where 2281 03:23:15,06 --> 03:23:18,55 what they ultimately did through through this is simply 2282 03:23:18,56 --> 03:23:24,88 a bill was take offenders that are typically felons that would typically go to the 2283 03:23:24,89 --> 03:23:26,70 state penitentiary to 2284 03:23:26,71 --> 03:23:33,46 a state prison and they realigned that to county jails so. The 2285 03:23:33,47 --> 03:23:34,77 C.C.P. S. 2286 03:23:35,05 --> 03:23:41,20 Were created to deal with that impact. When I'm referring to 2287 03:23:42,35 --> 03:23:45,39 that realignment of offenders there's 2288 03:23:45,40 --> 03:23:52,29 a term that we we call it the non. Non serious. Non violent 2289 03:23:52,30 --> 03:23:57,93 and non sex offenders while offenses may be felonies which is 2290 03:23:57,94 --> 03:24:04,32 a state prison term those are now being handled at the county the county jail level 2291 03:24:04,71 --> 03:24:11,06 so as you can imagine it is impacted the county jail population and it's 2292 03:24:11,89 --> 03:24:14,73 some dominoes are starting to fall as 2293 03:24:14,74 --> 03:24:21,51 a result of this so the original funding was set up. To fund the counties to do 2294 03:24:21,52 --> 03:24:22,28 that in 2295 03:24:22,29 --> 03:24:29,15 a staff report you'll see that. Received one point five million are 2296 03:24:29,44 --> 03:24:33,84 me one point seven million dollars in realignment funds but that was really for the 2297 03:24:33,85 --> 03:24:34,67 C.C.P. 2298 03:24:34,68 --> 03:24:41,81 So it's been handled all of that money was done at the. County level to 2299 03:24:42,24 --> 03:24:48,29 put together there the probation department to to equip the probation department to 2300 03:24:48,30 --> 03:24:54,72 do offender tracking and monitoring much like probation and parole. District 2301 03:24:54,74 --> 03:25:00,27 Attorney public defender costs and then. There are some other things mental health 2302 03:25:00,61 --> 03:25:07,05 substance abuse counseling and some other services that have been brought in what 2303 03:25:07,37 --> 03:25:13,35 didn't happen was there's really no money allocated to local law enforcement you 2304 03:25:13,36 --> 03:25:18,75 know address this issue on the corrections side of it and on the justice system 2305 03:25:18,79 --> 03:25:25,56 side of it but they didn't address it in our communities that would really see more 2306 03:25:25,57 --> 03:25:31,88 offenders. With less supervision so 2307 03:25:33,16 --> 03:25:39,18 that's essentially what this grant funding it is supposed to do the California 2308 03:25:39,19 --> 03:25:43,61 Police Chiefs Association. Which represents all of the municipal chiefs in this in 2309 03:25:43,62 --> 03:25:50,20 this state lobbied pretty hard to the governor to try to address this 2310 03:25:50,21 --> 03:25:56,95 issue of funding needs to happen on the law enforcement side as well. Not just 2311 03:25:57,09 --> 03:26:03,86 in the county system and I don't mean to say it's an us and them type of thing 2312 03:26:03,87 --> 03:26:10,76 because I really believe. We're all in it together. But frontline law 2313 03:26:10,76 --> 03:26:16,100 enforcement essentially was left out so out of this current budget. 2314 03:26:18,54 --> 03:26:24,90 I think twenty four million was allocated to local law enforcement of that 2315 03:26:27,56 --> 03:26:33,77 they have some complicated formula that they use the term in who gets what 2316 03:26:34,46 --> 03:26:37,93 and humble received one hundred twenty roughly one hundred twenty two thousand 2317 03:26:37,94 --> 03:26:41,80 dollars and that one hundred twenty two thousand dollars is what we're talking 2318 03:26:41,81 --> 03:26:48,64 about tonight is dedicated to local law enforcement municipal law enforcement 2319 03:26:51,01 --> 03:26:57,33 for the police chiefs at the local level to determine how best to use the money so 2320 03:26:57,34 --> 03:27:04,27 there's really not. Not much by the way of restrictions on how this money is 2321 03:27:04,28 --> 03:27:11,16 used it's intended to be used by Fortuna Rio del Ferndale Eureka or 2322 03:27:11,17 --> 03:27:17,32 keda which are the municipal police departments. The sheriff has to contract police 2323 03:27:17,46 --> 03:27:24,44 departments with Trinidad and blue lake so the sheriff set the table somewhat but 2324 03:27:24,44 --> 03:27:26,77 population you know wise it's not 2325 03:27:27,08 --> 03:27:33,99 a significant number. As my part of my work on the couch keeps 2326 03:27:33,100 --> 03:27:39,01 a board of directors you know I've certainly been tracking this issue and have been 2327 03:27:39,02 --> 03:27:44,48 in communication with a lot of people on what are they doing and there's 2328 03:27:44,49 --> 03:27:51,46 a lot of variations across the state. Ranging from in Forstmann 2329 03:27:51,47 --> 03:27:57,06 activities to. Data sharing there's just 2330 03:27:57,07 --> 03:28:03,71 a wide range. Brighty what we did is met locally 2331 03:28:04,72 --> 03:28:09,59 a couple weeks ago the local chiefs met with the sheriff and with the probation 2332 03:28:09,60 --> 03:28:12,34 chief Bill Damiano And so we had a had 2333 03:28:12,35 --> 03:28:19,25 a meeting and talked. It is their request that this is through 2334 03:28:19,26 --> 03:28:24,34 what's called leak the law enforcement chiefs association of humble that one city 2335 03:28:24,35 --> 03:28:30,47 has to be designated the fiduciary agent. Probably change that to financially jinx 2336 03:28:30,48 --> 03:28:37,21 it's easier to say but that their request is that are key to manage the funds. 2337 03:28:39,79 --> 03:28:44,35 I checked in with the finance director with the city manager there's really no 2338 03:28:44,36 --> 03:28:50,35 significant impact for us to manage the funds I think their preference was. 2339 03:28:51,83 --> 03:28:55,99 Because I'm on the board of directors with Cal chiefs little bit closer to the 2340 03:28:55,100 --> 03:29:02,89 issue. That it's probably most appropriate for for us or for me to do that so you 2341 03:29:02,90 --> 03:29:07,64 know I'm fine with that I need Council approval to do that and then to as the 2342 03:29:07,65 --> 03:29:13,58 financial agent we get the funds and then distribute them as the local police 2343 03:29:13,59 --> 03:29:20,06 chiefs decide the funds have been received but of course before we 2344 03:29:20,07 --> 03:29:26,76 fully fully accept them we need Council approval to do that our conversation 2345 03:29:27,03 --> 03:29:33,59 locally was. We looked at several different. 2346 03:29:34,62 --> 03:29:39,58 There were several different ideas that were brought to the table. One of which was 2347 03:29:39,59 --> 03:29:46,44 the concept of. Doing more in Foresman type activities where 2348 03:29:46,45 --> 03:29:48,10 you would essentially like 2349 03:29:48,11 --> 03:29:53,24 a DUI grant or something like that you know where you'd spend some money on 2350 03:29:53,25 --> 03:30:00,22 overtime to doing Foresman activities. I had serious reservations about 2351 03:30:00,23 --> 03:30:06,67 that because I feel like. And then what you know due to the kind of the domino 2352 03:30:06,68 --> 03:30:12,04 effect the gel capacity is high. So local we locally we have what's called 2353 03:30:12,05 --> 03:30:15,09 a matrix a booking matrix where if 2354 03:30:15,38 --> 03:30:20,80 a certain offense is committed. They will compare that offense to the matrix to the 2355 03:30:20,81 --> 03:30:27,61 population and people are not being held. Through 2356 03:30:27,65 --> 03:30:33,54 no fault of anybody it's just the way the system set up right now so nonviolent 2357 03:30:33,56 --> 03:30:38,70 offenses property crimes are not being held in custody. 2358 03:30:40,52 --> 03:30:47,51 So my concern with doing that type of inforce ment is we go in arrest people but 2359 03:30:47,52 --> 03:30:51,57 would then what happens I mean it just seems like they're there bouncing off the 2360 03:30:51,58 --> 03:30:56,78 front door. Remaining in the community still offending So there's got to be 2361 03:30:56,79 --> 03:31:03,32 a better way for us to do this. Ultimately really what we came down to is there's 2362 03:31:03,33 --> 03:31:10,19 a serious lack of scuse me of data sharing in law enforcement 2363 03:31:11,24 --> 03:31:16,67 for the sake of this discussion this isn't one hundred percent accurate but it kind 2364 03:31:16,68 --> 03:31:21,53 of gives you the idea we're all essentially on our own records management systems. 2365 03:31:22,78 --> 03:31:27,89 So what happens in our kid the sheriff doesn't really have access to that 2366 03:31:27,90 --> 03:31:32,10 information they can certainly call and we'll talk to them but they don't have any 2367 03:31:32,11 --> 03:31:38,95 real. Instant access as we don't for the sheriff's department and then 2368 03:31:38,99 --> 03:31:45,86 for probation or what's happening in Fortuna. You know we're just not getting 2369 03:31:46,57 --> 03:31:52,30 there's not access to that same information easy easy access so there there are as 2370 03:31:52,31 --> 03:31:58,61 technology has evolved there's products out there that. Can Look at these databases 2371 03:31:58,93 --> 03:32:05,85 that police databases combine them into one central location 2372 03:32:06,18 --> 03:32:10,90 and you know basically connect everybody so you have instant access to information 2373 03:32:10,94 --> 03:32:17,35 in the field in the departments. For example if the 2374 03:32:17,36 --> 03:32:23,34 sheriff's office had you know significant theft activity happening out on Weston 2375 03:32:23,35 --> 03:32:27,27 Road just outside of the city we wouldn't really know about it. 2376 03:32:30,25 --> 03:32:35,76 You know we talk but we're doing our business we're taking care of our thing 2377 03:32:35,77 --> 03:32:39,54 they're taking care of their thing there's certainly some communication but not 2378 03:32:39,55 --> 03:32:44,20 nearly enough so we don't know that right away that they're out on 2379 03:32:44,21 --> 03:32:51,19 a prowler call just outside of the city limits. Data sharing 2380 03:32:51,41 --> 03:32:57,73 resolves that issue and it can connect dots that we weren't able to connect before 2381 03:32:58,50 --> 03:33:04,37 so the consensus of the local chiefs was to move in that direction we're going to 2382 03:33:04,38 --> 03:33:11,16 start exploring it. Assuming the Council supports the idea of the money 2383 03:33:11,17 --> 03:33:15,84 coming in and us managing the money but that that's the direction that we're 2384 03:33:15,85 --> 03:33:22,84 heading with data sharing but the really the bigger goal is 2385 03:33:23,50 --> 03:33:29,04 to be able to analyze that data and to look at it regionally instead of 2386 03:33:29,91 --> 03:33:36,68 within our own jurisdictions. Eventually having the capability to analyze regional 2387 03:33:36,69 --> 03:33:43,29 data and look at crime trends regionally look at trying to solve crimes from that 2388 03:33:43,30 --> 03:33:50,29 perspective instead of our own little jurisdictions as 2389 03:33:50,30 --> 03:33:56,44 it. I think so too. So just really 2390 03:33:57,11 --> 03:34:02,61 really helpful I think it would be I started to pick this up. 2391 03:34:04,84 --> 03:34:10,59 A couple of years ago I started looking into. Data sharing and it's just 2392 03:34:10,60 --> 03:34:16,31 a big task and. It's almost as big as parking management I mean it's just 2393 03:34:16,32 --> 03:34:22,78 a big project so the sum of these funds can be used for 2394 03:34:22,79 --> 03:34:26,49 a consultant to do some of the heavy lifting for us and that's really what 2395 03:34:26,50 --> 03:34:32,22 a minute try to do is have somebody else that can really dedicate time to making it 2396 03:34:32,23 --> 03:34:38,32 happen and making it right. You know totally appropriate use of the funds let me 2397 03:34:38,33 --> 03:34:39,01 back up just 2398 03:34:39,02 --> 03:34:45,06 a little bit of that one point seven million dollars at the county received there's 2399 03:34:45,07 --> 03:34:51,80 a big hunk of dough that one time funding that they weren't able to spend 2400 03:34:52,33 --> 03:34:57,37 so there's some more money that could support the project. 2401 03:34:58,94 --> 03:35:03,35 This money that we're talking about is guaranteed for three years beyond that who 2402 03:35:03,36 --> 03:35:09,94 knows but you know what roughly three three hundred seventy thousand or so for the 2403 03:35:09,95 --> 03:35:16,40 next couple of years is what we're looking at in Arcadia. I mean you've 2404 03:35:16,55 --> 03:35:23,19 all probably been seeing the news in the press releases that been 2405 03:35:23,20 --> 03:35:29,98 coming out. It's not just arcade. In this 2406 03:35:29,99 --> 03:35:36,31 area. Especially we've seen significant increases in property crimes. 2407 03:35:38,53 --> 03:35:43,96 It's almost embarrassed to report this to you but I will do it anyways. 2408 03:35:45,90 --> 03:35:48,38 So from the implementation of 2409 03:35:48,39 --> 03:35:53,77 a B one zero nine our property crime has gone up twenty three percent so nearly 2410 03:35:53,78 --> 03:35:54,15 nearly 2411 03:35:54,16 --> 03:36:01,08 a quarter increase. Burglaries from residential or 2412 03:36:01,09 --> 03:36:05,68 commercial burglaries we call them structures. Burglaries from inside 2413 03:36:05,69 --> 03:36:12,35 a building are up one hundred in one thousand percent vehicle burglaries are up 2414 03:36:12,36 --> 03:36:19,03 twenty percent auto theft is up sixty one percent. There 2415 03:36:19,04 --> 03:36:25,98 just shocking. Shocking numbers can I attribute it to realignment and 2416 03:36:25,99 --> 03:36:32,87 I know it's so it's difficult to say. There when it comes to 2417 03:36:32,88 --> 03:36:38,04 these types of crimes defenses they are not punishable with 2418 03:36:38,05 --> 03:36:43,51 a prison term in the order they're punished what the local level but then I'm gone 2419 03:36:43,62 --> 03:36:49,10 I've got to go all the way back to that domino effect of the jail population 2420 03:36:49,54 --> 03:36:51,34 filling having to have 2421 03:36:51,35 --> 03:36:57,95 a matrix and you know the priority obviously is to retain violent offenders and 2422 03:36:58,27 --> 03:37:03,73 that's you know essentially that's where we're at or getting very close to being is 2423 03:37:03,74 --> 03:37:08,14 only housing violent offenders it's a it's 2424 03:37:08,15 --> 03:37:15,05 a difficult situation. There's. More plans in place that 2425 03:37:15,06 --> 03:37:21,63 we're trying to implement as far as. Monitoring. Offenders who have been 2426 03:37:21,64 --> 03:37:27,34 released with. You know house arrest in the ankle bracelets and things like that. 2427 03:37:28,99 --> 03:37:34,70 But those things take time and we're still pretty new into this so as these cases 2428 03:37:34,71 --> 03:37:40,28 wind through the court system and you know people who are sentenced. To what they 2429 03:37:40,29 --> 03:37:46,56 call a split sentence now which is new for realignment where you know 2430 03:37:46,57 --> 03:37:52,33 a portion of your sentence is in jail and apportions and supervised release. 2431 03:37:53,65 --> 03:37:59,33 You know as these start to filter back out into the community will be better 2432 03:38:00,02 --> 03:38:06,11 hopefully at doing monitoring supervision and things like that but there are some 2433 03:38:06,12 --> 03:38:12,59 significant increases for us. By like crime is down seven percent 2434 03:38:12,79 --> 03:38:14,78 which is great it's just 2435 03:38:14,79 --> 03:38:21,17 a cloud to be able to report that but these other offenses are are really high 2436 03:38:23,42 --> 03:38:27,01 in a small community like Arcadia. Just 2437 03:38:27,02 --> 03:38:32,10 a couple of people can really skew these numbers for us so you know I said auto 2438 03:38:32,11 --> 03:38:38,52 theft was sixty one percent well we had. One one person in 2439 03:38:38,53 --> 03:38:42,47 particular that is responsible for a lot of 2440 03:38:43,30 --> 03:38:48,22 a lot of these auto theft in the last year and you know we were able to eventually 2441 03:38:48,23 --> 03:38:54,86 catch him. Did no prison time in is out in the community now 2442 03:38:56,33 --> 03:39:03,28 on probation I believe but if you do others you know somebody steals thirty cars 2443 03:39:03,29 --> 03:39:03,36 in 2444 03:39:03,37 --> 03:39:10,30 a very short period of time I don't know what the solution is so that's that's where 2445 03:39:10,31 --> 03:39:16,18 we're at. With kind of the crime as it relates to. 2446 03:39:17,44 --> 03:39:22,12 The police department staffing and kind of how we are responding to it as 2447 03:39:22,13 --> 03:39:28,98 a reported in goal setting I had three vacancies plus two officers 2448 03:39:28,99 --> 03:39:35,16 on medical leave I now have four vacancies with one officer on medical leave. But 2449 03:39:35,17 --> 03:39:41,95 I'm hiring three and we're still recruiting to fill one spot so in the next 2450 03:39:41,96 --> 03:39:46,43 couple of weeks those positions will over the next four weeks three positions will 2451 03:39:46,44 --> 03:39:51,41 be filled with officers in that in the training program absolutely excited about 2452 03:39:51,42 --> 03:39:57,52 that. And then you know eventually we'll get the officer back from maternity leave 2453 03:39:57,53 --> 03:40:03,99 and that'll be will be really close to full staffing. You have probably seen we 2454 03:40:03,100 --> 03:40:10,06 have beefed up really tried hard to beat our neighborhood watch programs trying to 2455 03:40:10,07 --> 03:40:16,68 get you know community members involved as much as we can. But 2456 03:40:16,69 --> 03:40:23,23 that really. Is I said in goal setting officers raising their hand and being 2457 03:40:23,24 --> 03:40:27,18 willing to participate in that it's not I don't have 2458 03:40:27,19 --> 03:40:34,08 a position funded for Crime Prevention. Which you 2459 03:40:34,09 --> 03:40:34,32 know is 2460 03:40:34,33 --> 03:40:40,27 a tough one that's probably been at least ten years if not longer since we've had 2461 03:40:40,28 --> 03:40:45,87 a funded crime prevention officer. But we you know we're just doing the best we can 2462 03:40:45,88 --> 03:40:50,76 with that it's been very successful and it's continuing to grow. 2463 03:40:54,11 --> 03:40:55,51 Can I take questions I know it's 2464 03:40:55,52 --> 03:41:00,69 a lot of information and out of out of the utmost respect for your time I went 2465 03:41:00,70 --> 03:41:07,64 quick. Thanks but I smear WHEATLEY I was going to say unfortunately I think that 2466 03:41:07,68 --> 03:41:13,19 experience you just described is shared amongst many communities absolutely 2467 03:41:13,20 --> 03:41:19,51 statewide and in our region so. You've been dealt some bad cards 2468 03:41:19,52 --> 03:41:25,72 unfortunately and we're struggling to kind of readjust and deal with the real I 2469 03:41:25,73 --> 03:41:31,58 would go so far as to say we are experiencing the fall out of realignment and 2470 03:41:32,10 --> 03:41:38,99 you're very diplomatic thank you but. So without hesitation you 2471 03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:43,75 know I would I would urge that we accept the public safety realignment grant funds 2472 03:41:44,21 --> 03:41:47,26 from the board of state and community corrections in the amount of one hundred 2473 03:41:47,27 --> 03:41:51,78 twenty two thousand five hundred seventy four and I did just that and approved the 2474 03:41:51,79 --> 03:41:57,94 city of Arcadia to act as the grant administrator for the funds. In urging 2475 03:41:58,90 --> 03:42:04,76 this thing if it's also in motion with a motion second. Motion and 2476 03:42:04,77 --> 03:42:11,72 a second other discussion. For one I understand probably frustrating because 2477 03:42:11,73 --> 03:42:13,60 this is the work you're in so that's why I feel 2478 03:42:13,61 --> 03:42:19,19 a bit embarrassment about you know. But I don't think any one of us or anyone else 2479 03:42:19,20 --> 03:42:23,16 in the audience even you know blames you for this I think we kind of heard about 2480 03:42:23,17 --> 03:42:28,96 this coming down the line and then we're seeing it in our community and I've been 2481 03:42:28,97 --> 03:42:33,26 working with the neighborhood watch group and we're going to have an informational 2482 03:42:33,27 --> 03:42:39,04 meeting on March twenty eighth for the sunny Bray we're good it's just an 2483 03:42:39,05 --> 03:42:41,75 informational to it's going to be probably to a too big of 2484 03:42:41,76 --> 03:42:45,37 a group to actually form a neighborhood watch out of that group you have to have 2485 03:42:45,41 --> 03:42:48,37 a little bit smaller where people can kind of keep an eye on each other and stuff. 2486 03:42:50,35 --> 03:42:51,57 You know this is kind of reminding me 2487 03:42:51,58 --> 03:42:55,35 a little bit of the workshop so just came from going to work so it can help my 2488 03:42:55,36 --> 03:43:02,05 brand but where in San Jose when they lost redevelopment they found they had to do 2489 03:43:02,06 --> 03:43:06,60 their commute. Right now and I mean they kind of jokingly called Let's spend other 2490 03:43:06,61 --> 03:43:11,13 people's money but you know so what we may be what you know we're going to need to 2491 03:43:11,14 --> 03:43:17,30 be doing even more sort of using other people's eyes and and ears and attentiveness 2492 03:43:17,85 --> 03:43:21,60 to paying attention to things I'm thankful for the Neighborhood Watch program 2493 03:43:21,61 --> 03:43:26,26 Ginger Campbell is just wonderful I mean so far in our planning this anyway she's 2494 03:43:26,27 --> 03:43:31,22 just been really helpful. I wonder if there's any discussion on the county level is 2495 03:43:31,23 --> 03:43:37,85 there is there any thought for expanding the jail. That has 2496 03:43:37,86 --> 03:43:44,47 happened to small degree I don't have the jail capacity 2497 03:43:44,48 --> 03:43:48,66 statistics with me I get them sent to me every morning with the current population 2498 03:43:48,67 --> 03:43:55,29 and kind of what's happening with them they did expand I want to say twenty 2499 03:43:56,21 --> 03:44:02,40 beds I might have that wrong roughly twenty beds or so they expanded their their 2500 03:44:02,41 --> 03:44:09,18 capacity. The interesting capacity issue is the female 2501 03:44:09,19 --> 03:44:15,65 population is always over capacity so it's kind of an interesting number it's the 2502 03:44:15,66 --> 03:44:20,92 lower number obviously but. That one is always at 2503 03:44:21,43 --> 03:44:28,28 overcapacity in. The other one that's always at or over capacity is the. 2504 03:44:31,14 --> 03:44:37,64 Segregation there's there's another word for it. Isolation 2505 03:44:37,65 --> 03:44:42,78 isolation it's not called that but you know people who can only be have to be 2506 03:44:42,79 --> 03:44:48,24 housed by themselves you know one person one cell that number is always typically 2507 03:44:48,65 --> 03:44:55,57 very high so there has been discussions. Another 2508 03:44:56,19 --> 03:45:03,18 I don't want to take us too far off track but another dynamic of this or fall 2509 03:45:03,19 --> 03:45:09,61 out of this is the fire camps so those are run by. 2510 03:45:10,51 --> 03:45:15,77 It's a combination of Cal Fire and the Department of Corrections C.D.C. 2511 03:45:15,78 --> 03:45:20,83 Our California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. So we have local fire 2512 03:45:20,84 --> 03:45:27,74 camps primarily in southern humble Iraq all their point might be missing 2513 03:45:27,75 --> 03:45:34,44 one. Those inmates are low level offenders those are the inmates who are 2514 03:45:34,45 --> 03:45:40,66 released into the P.R.C.'s the. I'm going to look for them 2515 03:45:41,37 --> 03:45:46,29 to be post release community supervision the low level offenders those are the ones 2516 03:45:46,30 --> 03:45:50,34 that they were basically kicked out of the fire camps kicked out of the prisons so 2517 03:45:50,35 --> 03:45:56,67 now as you approach fire season the camps are under staffed 2518 03:45:57,95 --> 03:46:04,88 so what they're doing is they're having to kick down. Higher level offenders into 2519 03:46:04,89 --> 03:46:09,79 the fire camps to staff the fire camps which are now obviously not equipped for 2520 03:46:09,80 --> 03:46:14,01 that their minimum security facilities with a little bit of 2521 03:46:14,02 --> 03:46:20,74 a higher level offender so conversation has happened locally and on the state 2522 03:46:20,75 --> 03:46:27,43 level of should we be looking at lower level County offenders to staff the fire 2523 03:46:27,44 --> 03:46:33,80 camps and the response was absolutely we would be happy to take them being 2524 03:46:33,84 --> 03:46:34,80 C.C.R. 2525 03:46:34,81 --> 03:46:41,81 In Calif fire but you pay us so we're taking their inmates through 2526 03:46:41,82 --> 03:46:46,50 realignment and then we're having to pay them when they want us to pay them so they 2527 03:46:46,51 --> 03:46:52,12 can use. Fire crews for State fires. 2528 03:46:53,32 --> 03:47:00,11 It's. Got in explaining right it's just labor. Yeah yeah yeah we get it whereas 2529 03:47:00,12 --> 03:47:06,86 incredulous as you are yeah so that that didn't that didn't work out. Obviously 2530 03:47:06,87 --> 03:47:11,46 But there's there's more discussion there's more discussion is happening about the 2531 03:47:11,47 --> 03:47:18,37 home home detention home arrest type of situations expanding sweep the 2532 03:47:18,38 --> 03:47:23,07 swap program yeah I was wondering if so there's some creative things happening 2533 03:47:23,36 --> 03:47:24,85 through the C.C.P. 2534 03:47:24,86 --> 03:47:31,35 Which is the local the local group and if I could just plug in one thing. 2535 03:47:32,80 --> 03:47:35,34 After council member we spoke I made 2536 03:47:35,35 --> 03:47:39,51 a quick note. It is I don't want to say it's broken it is 2537 03:47:39,52 --> 03:47:46,26 a big issue what we're fortunate locally is we all get along really well and can 2538 03:47:46,27 --> 03:47:52,87 work together so the probation chief the sheriff the police chiefs that you know 2539 03:47:52,88 --> 03:47:56,42 that we can all work together and so we're able to sit at the table and come up 2540 03:47:56,43 --> 03:47:56,60 with 2541 03:47:56,61 --> 03:48:03,44 a what I think is probably the best plan for our region other counties are in complete 2542 03:48:03,48 --> 03:48:07,69 dysfunction and they just they see there see C.P.S. 2543 03:48:07,70 --> 03:48:13,37 Can't even get off the ground so when you I won't name counties but there's other 2544 03:48:13,38 --> 03:48:19,04 counties that they're not even close to being as far along as we are as far as day 2545 03:48:19,05 --> 03:48:24,41 reporting center the mental health the substance abuse counseling home detention 2546 03:48:24,42 --> 03:48:25,86 and things like that we're quite 2547 03:48:25,87 --> 03:48:32,74 a ways ahead so I'm proud that we're getting there. Which is even more 2548 03:48:32,75 --> 03:48:36,77 important than we were in early on the funding because if we can demonstrate 2549 03:48:36,89 --> 03:48:40,30 success I think you know that puts us in 2550 03:48:40,31 --> 03:48:45,99 a good light for future efforts in this line so it absolutely does. I think that 2551 03:48:46,00 --> 03:48:50,38 you know they're in there tracking it and this is being tracked very closely what 2552 03:48:50,50 --> 03:48:57,48 counties are doing so we're trying to be very prudent you say what is the capacity 2553 03:48:57,49 --> 03:49:03,82 of the county jail but. Really approximately three hundred in one thing the 2554 03:49:04,14 --> 03:49:09,55 five inmates approximately. R.T. 2555 03:49:09,56 --> 03:49:16,03 Deleted that email. It's somewhere right around there how much of that is female 2556 03:49:16,19 --> 03:49:22,71 which is Bill I don't know if 2557 03:49:23,25 --> 03:49:27,51 you know me to give you an I guess OK I mean I have a I have 2558 03:49:27,52 --> 03:49:31,87 a sense of it proportionally bit I couldn't give you the exact number when I say 2559 03:49:31,88 --> 03:49:38,35 probably sixty bad still ninety beds that ninety might be pretty high maybe sixty 2560 03:49:38,36 --> 03:49:40,17 beds are dedicated to female. 2561 03:49:46,35 --> 03:49:52,56 Is there any effort among counties to keep track of the effects of this. 2562 03:49:53,65 --> 03:50:00,50 Realignment and fiscally. You know just whatever how one how many 2563 03:50:00,51 --> 03:50:04,56 people are arrested what's the choice you know and and report this back is there is 2564 03:50:04,57 --> 03:50:11,11 there everyone's trying but nobody has been saying nobody few people 2565 03:50:11,12 --> 03:50:17,86 have the. Data capturing ability to do this and that's where we're 2566 03:50:17,87 --> 03:50:23,69 really weak and that's part of what we're looking at trying to change is the data 2567 03:50:23,70 --> 03:50:29,09 sharing from the state to the counties from probation to the cities it's it's 2568 03:50:29,13 --> 03:50:35,68 horrible and it's nobody's fault it's just how it is and that it's tough to 2569 03:50:35,69 --> 03:50:42,63 say what the example that our probation chief used is part of the money 2570 03:50:42,64 --> 03:50:49,03 that they dedicated it was for. Pre spree sent 2571 03:50:49,24 --> 03:50:52,07 pre-sentencing monitoring it 2572 03:50:52,07 --> 03:50:57,63 a serious offender you can hold them in jail you monitor him so you can limit their 2573 03:50:57,64 --> 03:51:01,20 ability to reoffend someone. That's 2574 03:51:01,21 --> 03:51:04,92 a similar you know they've been arrested they've been arraigned in and they've been 2575 03:51:04,93 --> 03:51:10,54 ordered to be monitored. So we have this program in place locally to do that. 2576 03:51:11,93 --> 03:51:18,66 Because of the jail capacity in the Matrix people who should be monitored 2577 03:51:19,63 --> 03:51:24,100 they're getting cited and released or booked and released so they're not getting 2578 03:51:25,01 --> 03:51:31,95 far enough in the process to be monitored. And it's just. The probation chief 2579 03:51:31,96 --> 03:51:37,46 has no idea how many people he had no clue how many people it is happening to 2580 03:51:37,87 --> 03:51:41,98 because our kiddo we have ours that we're booking the release you recognize there's 2581 03:51:42,37 --> 03:51:48,26 you know we all have we're booking people who are being held but there's no real 2582 03:51:48,27 --> 03:51:52,80 accountability of those numbers and so that's that's the issue that's what we're 2583 03:51:52,81 --> 03:51:55,79 trying to fix is. For us to be in 2584 03:51:55,80 --> 03:52:00,89 a situation where he can quickly type into the computer and see everybody that had 2585 03:52:00,90 --> 03:52:07,22 been arrested by Arcade. Sheriff. You know just a couple of keystrokes within 2586 03:52:07,23 --> 03:52:08,91 a period of time with 2587 03:52:08,92 --> 03:52:14,08 a disposition you know where they said unreleased Hello. So that's that's where 2588 03:52:14,09 --> 03:52:19,68 we're going with ours. Yeah I think the data and sharing with each other is that 2589 03:52:19,72 --> 03:52:24,51 right good idea I appreciate your thought process I'm glad you guys are able to 2590 03:52:24,52 --> 03:52:28,40 communicate well I think you know it will make you more functional I'm sure it 2591 03:52:28,41 --> 03:52:33,80 already is. So. I think it's 2592 03:52:33,81 --> 03:52:40,74 a great idea the data sharing and just the example of you know some type of crime 2593 03:52:40,75 --> 03:52:43,34 right outside of city limits and you know having 2594 03:52:43,67 --> 03:52:50,60 a record of that it's it was very compelling I do have one concern though. And you 2595 03:52:50,61 --> 03:52:56,97 and I have talked in the past about. Our policy in regards to immigration status 2596 03:52:56,98 --> 03:52:58,22 and really not being 2597 03:52:58,23 --> 03:53:04,09 a thing that we get into we're focused on on crime and you know that something be 2598 03:53:04,10 --> 03:53:10,97 county. Does and communicates with ice but we really don't get into that if if 2599 03:53:10,98 --> 03:53:14,86 we can avoid it so I'm just curious where I have 2600 03:53:14,87 --> 03:53:21,64 a concern about data sharing and about the role of the county. Because I 2601 03:53:21,68 --> 03:53:26,94 immigration enforcement and the role of the cities in participating in that and I 2602 03:53:26,95 --> 03:53:33,54 would hope that. Information about immigration status 2603 03:53:33,55 --> 03:53:34,97 doesn't wind up in 2604 03:53:34,98 --> 03:53:41,86 a system being shared throughout the city. On the front and 2605 03:53:41,90 --> 03:53:48,66 it wouldn't be so suppose we arrest somebody 2606 03:53:48,67 --> 03:53:49,14 for 2607 03:53:49,18 --> 03:53:56,09 a fresh offense DUI or whatever they pick the events. We booked 2608 03:53:56,10 --> 03:54:02,20 that person in the county jail in through their system which we do not participate 2609 03:54:02,21 --> 03:54:04,59 in. There's 2610 03:54:04,60 --> 03:54:11,42 a hold in immigration hold I would assume that that is flagged so that's 2611 03:54:11,43 --> 03:54:16,100 coming off of the federal system I'm assuming that when they run that and they see 2612 03:54:17,01 --> 03:54:22,99 that there's an immigration issue they would somehow flag it in their system you 2613 03:54:22,100 --> 03:54:29,98 know associating it with this name and number whatever it is presumably if 2614 03:54:29,99 --> 03:54:36,47 we access the system that we're looking at it's called Cop link very clever name so 2615 03:54:36,47 --> 03:54:43,09 . Sue me you know if we access cop link and put in this person's name I'm 2616 03:54:43,10 --> 03:54:49,88 assuming that that information with and pop up however it is cussed I know in my 2617 03:54:49,89 --> 03:54:55,22 research of the system it is customizable you can limit the fields each agency can 2618 03:54:55,23 --> 03:55:02,12 protect data that they think is should not be shared so 2619 03:55:02,81 --> 03:55:08,08 I would say that we could probably safely address that issue. Thanks be something 2620 03:55:08,09 --> 03:55:10,93 I'd be curious in hearing more about in the future but overall it's 2621 03:55:10,94 --> 03:55:16,82 a good idea you know the thing that comes to minus what if someone. Was later found 2622 03:55:16,83 --> 03:55:20,49 to be innocent of what they were picked up for but then that they were still 2623 03:55:20,50 --> 03:55:27,35 flagged in the system as. Being here and illegally or an undocumented 2624 03:55:27,36 --> 03:55:31,74 way and so somehow they are still in the community or they wind up back in the 2625 03:55:31,75 --> 03:55:35,90 community they never actually committed any other crime other than violating 2626 03:55:36,03 --> 03:55:40,28 federal immigration law and they're still in the system so that that's really the 2627 03:55:40,29 --> 03:55:45,64 concern they would be you know. So I know this to be in the county system I'm just 2628 03:55:45,65 --> 03:55:52,26 not sure that I want. To have access to that right and I would 2629 03:55:52,30 --> 03:55:57,25 counter with you know we have a very specific policy that immigration is not 2630 03:55:57,29 --> 03:56:03,30 a basis for detention or investigation alone has to be associated with 2631 03:56:04,16 --> 03:56:05,85 a fresh offense or 2632 03:56:05,89 --> 03:56:12,57 a related offense human trafficking drug trafficking things like that. You can have 2633 03:56:12,58 --> 03:56:15,75 the best policies but if you don't train your people and you don't monitor your 2634 03:56:15,76 --> 03:56:22,44 people you know obviously there's room you know things happen. We put them in 2635 03:56:22,45 --> 03:56:26,70 place you know we do the best right that you know I do I just quickly pulled up 2636 03:56:26,71 --> 03:56:33,44 that information council member Winkler maximum capacity is three ninety one at the 2637 03:56:33,45 --> 03:56:40,06 jail. Female capacity is fifty five 2638 03:56:40,80 --> 03:56:47,41 so it's pretty close that. They call it housed 2639 03:56:47,45 --> 03:56:54,23 alone males which is I guess isolation or single cell max capacity is twenty six 2640 03:56:54,27 --> 03:56:58,79 percent net twenty nine now maximum security. 2641 03:57:01,46 --> 03:57:07,49 Capacity. Is. Thirty two and they're at thirty eight right now 2642 03:57:08,01 --> 03:57:11,13 protective custody that's the word I was looking for there are some people who have 2643 03:57:11,14 --> 03:57:17,70 to be protective custody. In their eight people over capacity on that 2644 03:57:19,22 --> 03:57:22,94 thank you so one when you're saying that when you're saying there's eight people 2645 03:57:22,95 --> 03:57:26,60 over capacity I'm trying to picture that I'm like So what are they doing sit in 2646 03:57:26,61 --> 03:57:31,39 a hall or like what's happening there. Fortunately I am not 2647 03:57:31,40 --> 03:57:36,45 a correctional officer or sheriff. I don't fully understand no they don't put them 2648 03:57:36,46 --> 03:57:36,52 in 2649 03:57:36,53 --> 03:57:44,42 a hall typically what they would they would do is put more people in the general population 2650 03:57:44,84 --> 03:57:48,27 double up bunks and create more space essentially is what they do. 2651 03:57:52,57 --> 03:57:55,00 All right so we have a motion in 2652 03:57:55,01 --> 03:58:00,29 a second to have any public comment. No public comment Any final comments before we 2653 03:58:00,30 --> 03:58:05,62 vote could could I just come in that approximately fifteen minutes of Chief Chapman 2654 03:58:05,62 --> 03:58:12,32 . Discussion did not go out over the year we've had some problems with access some 2655 03:58:12,33 --> 03:58:17,22 but we're now back on the air if people would like to see his presentation they can 2656 03:58:17,23 --> 03:58:23,96 go on our website and pull up the. The item tomorrow and it will be back on 2657 03:58:23,97 --> 03:58:27,08 perhaps tonight I'm not sure what we'll get on there tonight but we will be able to 2658 03:58:27,09 --> 03:58:31,35 put it on our Internet tomorrow so we apologize to our home audience for that so we 2659 03:58:31,36 --> 03:58:36,63 did capture it we will because there were after we did in A and we are back up on 2660 03:58:37,09 --> 03:58:42,11 the air now there are some technical difficulties with Access on both so I know 2661 03:58:42,12 --> 03:58:46,45 it's still too nice for you guys missed a good show it was juggling it was on 2662 03:58:46,46 --> 03:58:53,19 a unicycle It was amazing really. All those in 2663 03:58:53,20 --> 03:58:59,64 favor. And he opposed all right. Thanks to you 2664 03:59:00,22 --> 03:59:06,90 thank you. I hope we can. Serve to be good 2665 03:59:06,96 --> 03:59:13,83 partners assist the situation. Hey I heard they're not making Crown Vics anymore. 2666 03:59:16,83 --> 03:59:23,24 True they're not what are we going to be seeing out there we tried to hoard 2667 03:59:23,25 --> 03:59:27,73 a couple. We. We hoarded 2668 03:59:27,74 --> 03:59:32,69 a couple you can blame the city manager cut the budget it's my fault I didn't hoard 2669 03:59:32,70 --> 03:59:39,22 more. All right I. Guess we'll be seeing chargers or something that's 2670 03:59:39,87 --> 03:59:40,16 going to be 2671 03:59:40,17 --> 03:59:46,34 a lecture electric I want to feel like they have in Europe but the officers don't 2672 03:59:46,35 --> 03:59:53,25 want. Ford That's another product. OK All right we'll look forward to 2673 03:59:53,96 --> 04:00:00,64 thanks. So that brings us to oral and written communications is there anyone else 2674 04:00:00,65 --> 04:00:06,94 here to comment on an item not on the agenda All right well move on to council on 2675 04:00:06,95 --> 04:00:13,89 staff reports and staff reports this evening. Just so happened it was 2676 04:00:13,90 --> 04:00:20,15 mentioned earlier the ridge trail in the Rotary functions Saturday night. After the 2677 04:00:20,16 --> 04:00:26,01 meeting if anybody is interested. Thank you you know I was going to suggest that 2678 04:00:26,02 --> 04:00:32,31 somebody should make sure that they're at the celebration tomorrow night. At seven 2679 04:00:32,32 --> 04:00:33,89 o'clock P.M. 2680 04:00:33,89 --> 04:00:39,89 . This sell tickets for that of that I will be there. 2681 04:00:43,72 --> 04:00:49,66 All right council you want to start kilts member we will be very brief. 2682 04:00:51,49 --> 04:00:55,21 In the. OK To the chamber mixer was 2683 04:00:55,22 --> 04:00:58,62 a good turnout. Had 2684 04:00:58,63 --> 04:01:03,57 a good time last week we could go on the Special Olympics trip down the center as 2685 04:01:03,58 --> 04:01:06,53 of our three teams two got gold one got 2686 04:01:06,54 --> 04:01:12,84 a silver from humble County they did very well and then I want to thank their kill 2687 04:01:12,85 --> 04:01:18,29 a quantised club they're helping. I went to their event for St Patrick's Day and 2688 04:01:18,30 --> 04:01:21,12 they received a check from them in support of 2689 04:01:21,13 --> 04:01:25,72 a project I've been working with Glen Paul school and it's called Ready willing and 2690 04:01:25,73 --> 04:01:31,96 able and it's to help with the special needs bikes that they have and so we'll be 2691 04:01:32,22 --> 04:01:38,10 working with green wills and various other bike groups in the community to help us 2692 04:01:38,67 --> 04:01:41,72 do some repair work so work with the staff over 2693 04:01:41,73 --> 04:01:47,01 a glimpse Paul and so we'll be hearing more about that so thank you 2694 04:01:48,97 --> 04:01:54,60 I have some questions I'm wondering when the plastic bag be on our agenda when the 2695 04:01:54,61 --> 04:01:59,13 smoking ordinance will be honored. As 2696 04:01:59,14 --> 04:02:02,67 a question so you don't have to answer I'm just these are things I would like to 2697 04:02:02,68 --> 04:02:09,63 know the the smoking ordinance is in the queue. It is at the City 2698 04:02:09,64 --> 04:02:13,44 Attorney's Office and like we have one city attorney and she's got 2699 04:02:13,45 --> 04:02:18,50 a very full plate. I would say within the next tentatively now it's 2700 04:02:18,54 --> 04:02:24,58 a good job for the next. I think I think we said April or May probably or may the 2701 04:02:24,59 --> 04:02:30,91 plastic bag issue we are we're kind of waiting for me I believe 2702 04:02:31,20 --> 04:02:35,21 actually Karen demerit for me that she's working on it and they'll be bringing it 2703 04:02:35,22 --> 04:02:39,61 up within the next few meetings because they have the draft document from H.B.O. 2704 04:02:39,62 --> 04:02:43,36 May stuff to us they haven't in hand actually H.B.O. 2705 04:02:43,37 --> 04:02:48,57 May has been waiting for our staff to comment on the draft document but Karen said 2706 04:02:48,72 --> 04:02:54,12 they're just going to bring it to us and get some some direction so I think about 2707 04:02:54,13 --> 04:03:00,98 coming to you here soon and I just think about those things and just curious. 2708 04:03:02,34 --> 04:03:09,20 Susan. Council member analysis I could say and council member Atkins from the 2709 04:03:09,21 --> 04:03:15,38 city of Eureka we all went to the Local Government Commission in the last week and 2710 04:03:15,39 --> 04:03:21,48 it was really quite excellent because cold to know. You know it wasn't. 2711 04:03:22,75 --> 04:03:23,78 Sixty S. 2712 04:03:23,82 --> 04:03:27,38 Sixty's high sixty's it was they had to have 2713 04:03:27,39 --> 04:03:32,81 a lot of us know beforehand not not when we were there so we had it we had 2714 04:03:32,82 --> 04:03:36,34 a very interesting time and I think as time goes on we'll have more and more 2715 04:03:36,35 --> 04:03:42,84 information that will be able to It'll come out pass on and which leads me to 2716 04:03:43,01 --> 04:03:49,79 a little lake property and I'm just wondering what the status of that is where 2717 04:03:49,80 --> 04:03:55,42 that stands as far as the cleanup is concerned Region Development as such or you 2718 04:03:55,43 --> 04:04:00,40 don't have to answer it I'm just giving you questions we don't have all the answers 2719 04:04:00,41 --> 04:04:05,65 at your fingertips I can answer that that is part of the question dirty 2720 04:04:05,66 --> 04:04:10,94 a properties that have yet to be resolved and we did 2721 04:04:10,95 --> 04:04:17,68 a major cleanup with the old kiln building and I believe it is that. It's not 2722 04:04:17,69 --> 04:04:22,69 developable yet but the major cleanup prob issues have been taken care of when that 2723 04:04:22,70 --> 04:04:29,53 building was torn down and carted off but it's my understanding that from the 2724 04:04:29,54 --> 04:04:35,71 environment environmental depart are I can you know argue division here 2725 04:04:36,48 --> 04:04:41,78 that there is some funding is available for educational projects and so that there 2726 04:04:41,79 --> 04:04:42,18 might be 2727 04:04:42,19 --> 04:04:47,65 a way to be able to fund something around the marsh in order for it more educational 2728 04:04:47,81 --> 04:04:52,13 You know the educational component that they wanted to add on to the marsh in order 2729 04:04:52,14 --> 04:04:54,12 to make it bigger for lectures 2730 04:04:54,13 --> 04:04:58,81 a cetera so there is some money available at the state level that we can apply for 2731 04:04:58,82 --> 04:05:01,05 a project but Susan and I have 2732 04:05:01,06 --> 04:05:05,36 a dream and so we're just thinking about what we're going to be able to do with 2733 04:05:05,40 --> 04:05:10,82 a little late property so. So we'll stay on that one does H.S. 2734 04:05:10,83 --> 04:05:17,57 You pay sales tax to Arcadia the bookstore the bookstore Yeah I believe so yes 2735 04:05:17,69 --> 04:05:17,89 OK 2736 04:05:17,89 --> 04:05:24,88 a private entity now other contracted organisation alright and I'm going to 2737 04:05:25,77 --> 04:05:31,99 OK I guess that's it of that I have I don't know it's just I just figure we'll just 2738 04:05:31,100 --> 04:05:36,75 be passing things out and thinking about things and see what we can do that will be 2739 04:05:37,24 --> 04:05:41,32 advantageous from that and I'm really sorry that our community development director 2740 04:05:41,33 --> 04:05:45,47 was unable to go to this conference because it had so much to do with things that 2741 04:05:45,48 --> 04:05:51,36 would have been important for the Community Development Department. Right thank you 2742 04:05:52,02 --> 04:05:57,12 moving down this way who wants to go first go first let's see I went to 2743 04:05:57,16 --> 04:05:59,56 a being of the market 2744 04:05:59,57 --> 04:06:04,45 a house partnership board and that was interesting there they seem to get along 2745 04:06:04,46 --> 04:06:08,82 very well together the organisation is urging effectively arcade 2746 04:06:08,83 --> 04:06:15,78 a house that I children. One there was one area of concern that Fox also 2747 04:06:15,79 --> 04:06:17,20 the executive director joked 2748 04:06:17,21 --> 04:06:21,57 a little bit about but it sounds like they're sort of skating on the edge of the 2749 04:06:21,58 --> 04:06:27,87 restriction that the city put on of of that people who going there had to be 2750 04:06:27,88 --> 04:06:29,64 clients and that it could be 2751 04:06:29,65 --> 04:06:36,28 a drop in facility so we need to make sure that they are employed and they will 2752 04:06:36,29 --> 04:06:42,78 comply or your staff has been talking about that is the latest today and there has 2753 04:06:42,79 --> 04:06:49,69 been star staff is particular transportation staff and recreation or park staff 2754 04:06:49,70 --> 04:06:55,04 has has been concerned about some increased problems in the area and I've talked to 2755 04:06:55,05 --> 04:07:00,36 the police chief about this and asked for some increased police presence in the 2756 04:07:00,37 --> 04:07:06,67 area. So I don't know if these I don't know that these people are associated with 2757 04:07:06,68 --> 04:07:08,08 the arcade 2758 04:07:08,09 --> 04:07:12,23 a house partnership but they are hanging in the area I think it's becoming 2759 04:07:12,24 --> 04:07:18,100 a problem for for all involved so it's hopefully will have some. Greater tension in 2760 04:07:19,01 --> 04:07:25,88 that area and kind of take care of some of the problem people there. It's 2761 04:07:25,89 --> 04:07:30,26 Michael's term but my understanding is says that individual stars showing up there 2762 04:07:30,30 --> 04:07:33,99 figuring they could have a free lunch etc because all of 2763 04:07:33,100 --> 04:07:38,15 a sudden it was active there were people there and had been closed down for so long 2764 04:07:38,19 --> 04:07:40,08 but that they all of a sudden got 2765 04:07:40,09 --> 04:07:46,82 a different. Clientele that they were expecting when my understanding of the the 2766 04:07:47,59 --> 04:07:52,19 contract with them is that people have to be clients and they have to be under Case 2767 04:07:52,20 --> 04:07:57,55 Management and they just can't people just can't drop it all that correct and I 2768 04:07:57,56 --> 04:08:02,81 think the problem though is the people that are outside right now that are smoking 2769 04:08:02,82 --> 04:08:09,30 and drinking near the transportation facility in particular so I we've been getting 2770 04:08:09,31 --> 04:08:15,04 some complaints my transportation staff so. I'm very confident that our our police 2771 04:08:15,05 --> 04:08:20,100 department can make some improvements in that area and in terms of people that are 2772 04:08:21,01 --> 04:08:25,55 breaking laws and teaching them to not or or have them move on. 2773 04:08:33,02 --> 04:08:34,80 And then yesterday went to 2774 04:08:34,84 --> 04:08:39,70 a meeting I mean three which frankly happened that meeting did not happen in 2775 04:08:39,71 --> 04:08:42,35 February for 2776 04:08:42,36 --> 04:08:47,76 a couple reasons one first that Jennifer got the flu and then she had to go to 2777 04:08:47,88 --> 04:08:51,29 a conference the next week and Originally she was going to show up for 2778 04:08:52,61 --> 04:08:55,50 a delayed meeting anyway but it would have meant that she would have to drive all 2779 04:08:55,51 --> 04:09:00,89 night and I think she decided it was unsafe so we didn't have any real. 2780 04:09:02,60 --> 04:09:08,21 But there are. They lost some people on the board and they're recruiting new board 2781 04:09:08,23 --> 04:09:09,38 members and so 2782 04:09:09,62 --> 04:09:15,22 a couple prospective board members showed up and they also have 2783 04:09:15,23 --> 04:09:22,08 a new president David I think kind of have the right and Ira. They were it's 2784 04:09:22,09 --> 04:09:29,09 the. Now I think it's any why Ari It's not even sure of different 2785 04:09:29,56 --> 04:09:35,56 you know. Who's the new board president and. 2786 04:09:36,95 --> 04:09:40,96 Looks like they're actually working one thing that was very positive is that it 2787 04:09:40,97 --> 04:09:41,89 sounds like they have 2788 04:09:41,90 --> 04:09:46,99 a greatly improved relationship with the Chamber of Commerce So they had been at 2789 04:09:47,00 --> 04:09:51,70 odds in the past they're very they met with Sandy Scott the executive director of 2790 04:09:51,71 --> 04:09:57,55 the chamber and it looks like that relationship is actually. Really good that 2791 04:09:57,56 --> 04:09:58,41 they're now operating in 2792 04:09:58,42 --> 04:10:06,05 a very cooperative way and they also talked about. Having 2793 04:10:06,06 --> 04:10:07,39 that the crabs have 2794 04:10:07,69 --> 04:10:13,85 a presence in the in the office of. Main Street in the. 2795 04:10:15,09 --> 04:10:21,07 Storehouse and to be able to have give people information on the crab cells sell it 2796 04:10:21,08 --> 04:10:22,57 and stick it and have 2797 04:10:22,66 --> 04:10:28,18 a crab or paraphernalia and so it sounds like that's it's 2798 04:10:28,19 --> 04:10:34,46 a good relationship there to see Today I attended a meeting of 2799 04:10:34,47 --> 04:10:39,66 a Transit Authority board and. There's been 2800 04:10:39,91 --> 04:10:43,60 a major changes far as their accounting system so that today we had 2801 04:10:43,61 --> 04:10:47,87 a report from the auditors and that they're sort of growing pains in and changing 2802 04:10:47,88 --> 04:10:50,50 from a of a looser to 2803 04:10:50,51 --> 04:10:56,06 a lot more structured accounting system with the with the relative we. 2804 04:10:57,32 --> 04:11:00,22 Financial person for for H.D. 2805 04:11:00,23 --> 04:11:01,28 It looks like that it's going be 2806 04:11:01,29 --> 04:11:04,48 a lot tighter but there are certain certain growing pains and transitions that 2807 04:11:04,49 --> 04:11:11,41 they're going through right now that the South Humboldt service is is 2808 04:11:11,42 --> 04:11:16,95 still local is still not making a farebox ratio so that's 2809 04:11:16,96 --> 04:11:23,10 a concern about whether that's going to be viable long long term the inner city is 2810 04:11:23,11 --> 04:11:26,87 continues to do well and looks like it's going to be just fine the south of Boulder 2811 04:11:26,88 --> 04:11:33,72 City and the other funding. We did talk about Sunday my impression is doing OK. 2812 04:11:36,05 --> 04:11:39,90 And they just got two new buses for. 2813 04:11:43,10 --> 04:11:46,16 The other is the other change is that as part of 2814 04:11:46,83 --> 04:11:53,39 a new contract with the. With the employees and with the 2815 04:11:53,40 --> 04:11:56,99 drivers they're going to be making some major changes their schedules and it looks 2816 04:11:57,00 --> 04:11:58,26 like they may have 2817 04:11:58,27 --> 04:12:02,65 a mixed system in which they're going to have some smaller buses in there are 2818 04:12:02,66 --> 04:12:07,11 thinking about what the transfer point would be switching from is what what they're 2819 04:12:07,12 --> 04:12:09,60 finding is that north of H. 2820 04:12:09,61 --> 04:12:14,76 Issue and south of culture the redwoods that the buses that are running are much 2821 04:12:14,77 --> 04:12:16,74 too big and they're using 2822 04:12:16,75 --> 04:12:22,46 a lot more fuel so what they're thinking about doing is having Trent is having 2823 04:12:22,47 --> 04:12:27,13 a transfer so they're running smaller buses on these more outlying areas that have 2824 04:12:27,24 --> 04:12:28,08 fewer passengers. 2825 04:12:34,29 --> 04:12:39,54 And that is all going to have. OK I have kind of 2826 04:12:39,55 --> 04:12:45,88 a list here. Building on what the police chief was just talking about and since we 2827 04:12:45,89 --> 04:12:49,67 were really off the air. There's going to be 2828 04:12:49,71 --> 04:12:55,83 a meeting about neighborhood to get neighborhood watch information so it's 2829 04:12:55,84 --> 04:12:58,97 a March twenty eighth six thirty P.M. 2830 04:12:59,20 --> 04:13:04,43 Sunday brace school it's intended for the neighborhood but anyone's is welcome to 2831 04:13:04,44 --> 04:13:08,49 come it won't be really a neighborhood watch meeting because it's it's 2832 04:13:08,50 --> 04:13:12,28 a little too broad of an area to have that type of meeting but the idea is to get 2833 04:13:12,29 --> 04:13:14,77 information out I wanted what 2834 04:13:14,78 --> 04:13:18,75 a neighborhood watch program could be and how people could organize it and things 2835 04:13:18,76 --> 04:13:23,56 like that so that's March twenty eighth sunny Bay school at six thirty P.M. 2836 04:13:23,56 --> 04:13:30,48 . And then today I had the. Honor of getting to help serve the senior 2837 04:13:30,49 --> 04:13:35,12 lunches that was so much fun I really want to encourage If you've never done it to 2838 04:13:35,13 --> 04:13:39,40 do it some time they said through this month or you know years go around fast 2839 04:13:39,41 --> 04:13:42,92 enough next year maybe but it's just really what 2840 04:13:42,93 --> 04:13:47,35 a wonderful wonderful program for people we bring we bring them 2841 04:13:47,36 --> 04:13:52,35 a lunch you check in on them I mean most of these people I have to say you know 2842 04:13:52,36 --> 04:13:57,28 we're I shouldn't say most but I think everyone was over eighty and some were over 2843 04:13:57,29 --> 04:14:03,59 ninety and they've lived in their house for you know fifty seventy years it was 2844 04:14:03,60 --> 04:14:07,17 pretty wonderful program really so it's just it's 2845 04:14:07,18 --> 04:14:13,25 a great experience and insecurity of people who maybe don't see all the time. So 2846 04:14:13,26 --> 04:14:17,42 that was really great and so if you want to do that that's the senior resource 2847 04:14:17,43 --> 04:14:21,57 center contact. Let's see. 2848 04:14:25,89 --> 04:14:27,43 Caltrans really wants to make 2849 04:14:27,44 --> 04:14:32,51 a presentation to our kids city council before they go before the Coastal 2850 04:14:32,52 --> 04:14:36,64 Commission so I sent you an email about that but I just want to bring it up and 2851 04:14:36,65 --> 04:14:40,69 mention it and hopefully will go for this it's looking they're hoping to do it 2852 04:14:40,70 --> 04:14:47,01 something in April. So I was suggesting that the second week in April does not to 2853 04:14:47,02 --> 04:14:50,59 be too long we know it but they've they've made they've they've heard this is 2854 04:14:50,77 --> 04:14:56,12 somebody. I think the city council meeting the second meeting that that's what on 2855 04:14:56,17 --> 04:15:01,74 thinking. This it maybe I would work and partly that's because I'm not going to be 2856 04:15:01,75 --> 04:15:04,41 here on April third I'm going to be down at 2857 04:15:04,42 --> 04:15:11,23 a Cal called meeting so I thought it me nice to be here for this but I'll actually 2858 04:15:11,24 --> 04:15:11,97 see there's going to be 2859 04:15:11,98 --> 04:15:18,07 a presentation on the one chord or it Thursday tomorrow at four so if anyone the 2860 04:15:18,08 --> 04:15:23,54 public wants to see that or wait till April here. My best understanding of it is 2861 04:15:23,55 --> 04:15:26,91 that. They will give me 2862 04:15:26,92 --> 04:15:32,53 a quickie understanding of it is that they're looking to do the whole bang between 2863 04:15:32,54 --> 04:15:38,08 one hundred one and that Caltrans state level Caltrans is willing to chip in the 2864 04:15:38,09 --> 04:15:40,75 rest of the money compared to what we had kind of 2865 04:15:40,76 --> 04:15:46,28 a half for the for the over the overpass and the trail they have heard they've got 2866 04:15:46,29 --> 04:15:52,86 religion they understand that we want the trail and that's one try I was trying to 2867 04:15:52,87 --> 04:15:56,55 get Dave to understand that it's really the Caltrans now working with the county 2868 04:15:56,60 --> 04:16:00,55 and city of Eureka and they've committed at least 2869 04:16:00,56 --> 04:16:05,06 a million dollars towards the trial and you know hopefully more just keep going and 2870 04:16:05,07 --> 04:16:05,67 I keep calling it 2871 04:16:05,68 --> 04:16:10,65 a class one trail right that's what it is right so. I think they understand that 2872 04:16:10,66 --> 04:16:15,78 and so they want to make that presentation because what they recognize is if they 2873 04:16:15,79 --> 04:16:20,39 could go to the Coastal Commission really with the support of all the people here 2874 04:16:20,40 --> 04:16:22,13 that yes we see this and this is 2875 04:16:22,14 --> 04:16:27,85 a transportation you know motive we want to. Upgrade we need it will be much better 2876 04:16:27,86 --> 04:16:34,59 in line for funding for the trail for other amenities we want to do you know. And 2877 04:16:34,60 --> 04:16:38,70 just to get in to get the state funds because while they want to do it they hasn't 2878 04:16:38,78 --> 04:16:44,33 been committed yet to do the full project so I know the full project is slightly 2879 04:16:44,34 --> 04:16:48,85 controversial with some people but if you really I travel that corridor fairly 2880 04:16:48,86 --> 04:16:52,18 often and maybe you do too and if you drive it but if you've ever tried to turn one 2881 04:16:52,19 --> 04:16:56,26 of those medians it is pretty scary So anyway they want to do 2882 04:16:56,27 --> 04:17:00,09 a presentation and they're really hoping to be able to go to the coast to coast and 2883 04:17:00,10 --> 04:17:05,57 with as much support as possible. And then I was at 2884 04:17:05,58 --> 04:17:08,94 a redwood Coast Energy Authority meeting on Monday they're doing really good 2885 04:17:08,95 --> 04:17:12,79 there's so many great things going on with our CEA what they are moving so I just 2886 04:17:12,80 --> 04:17:15,73 want to let people know that they will buy 2887 04:17:15,92 --> 04:17:21,44 a Anyway so I think I think they'll still be where they are in April but by at 2888 04:17:21,45 --> 04:17:28,07 least by may be moving to six thirty three Third Street the old it's an old 2889 04:17:28,08 --> 04:17:32,57 engineering office that I can't remember exactly I think it'll be the same phone 2890 04:17:32,58 --> 04:17:39,01 number yeah we are in Cali. And then just to build on what council member Stillman 2891 04:17:39,64 --> 04:17:44,04 mentioned about the Local Government Commission meeting it really was very 2892 04:17:44,05 --> 04:17:48,31 stimulating I was wary to go at one point thinking it might be snowing and stuff 2893 04:17:48,32 --> 04:17:52,44 and coming home I was just like oh Alex thank you thank you thank you for get me to 2894 04:17:52,45 --> 04:17:58,83 go on this it was very. Just stimulating I guess is the only word I can think right 2895 04:17:58,84 --> 04:17:59,03 now it's 2896 04:17:59,04 --> 04:18:03,51 a little too tired but one of the main things I would like to say and it really is 2897 04:18:03,55 --> 04:18:07,98 kind of captured my attention is well optimize on your assets you know and here we 2898 04:18:07,99 --> 04:18:12,75 have this beautiful day and we do have the whole Marsh system up there and that is 2899 04:18:12,76 --> 04:18:18,02 optimizing on that asset but we're not optimizing it nearly enough you know. I 2900 04:18:18,03 --> 04:18:22,53 think I don't think we you know it's kind of like our back door and really it's 2901 04:18:22,54 --> 04:18:22,95 a it's 2902 04:18:22,96 --> 04:18:29,27 a beautiful realm so. Those are things this is just to really encourage us in ways 2903 04:18:29,28 --> 04:18:33,53 I mean without the redevelopment monies what they're saying is really use your 2904 04:18:33,54 --> 04:18:37,36 assets use your physical assets use your citizens and you know and as we were 2905 04:18:37,37 --> 04:18:43,14 talking about even neighborhood watch with the with lack of funds it can be said 2906 04:18:43,15 --> 04:18:48,17 Jose gave us an interesting presentation that they found that actually it was it's 2907 04:18:48,18 --> 04:18:51,29 almost been beneficial to them I mean although no one likes to give out money and 2908 04:18:51,30 --> 04:18:55,80 thinks thinks it's beneficial but when you have money you can insulate yourself 2909 04:18:55,81 --> 04:19:00,63 from other people you don't have to ask people to help you so you don't have to you 2910 04:19:00,64 --> 04:19:04,50 know but when you don't have money you have to you have to go out and reach out 2911 04:19:04,51 --> 04:19:08,38 into people and so you know we're reaching out to the neighborhood watch but we can 2912 04:19:08,39 --> 04:19:12,42 be doing this on economic development and in other asked sent to so just really 2913 04:19:12,43 --> 04:19:15,42 thinking about all the people we have this is maybe 2914 04:19:15,43 --> 04:19:21,46 a time to give them opportunity just to step up so. That's just kind of 2915 04:19:21,47 --> 04:19:26,79 a potential way of thinking about this time we have where we don't have too many 2916 04:19:26,80 --> 04:19:33,47 funds right now so that's. Thank you you have 2917 04:19:33,48 --> 04:19:38,20 something you want to add Well I just want maybe you're going to mention it 2918 04:19:38,24 --> 04:19:41,27 tomorrow night is the Parks and Recreation committees having 2919 04:19:41,28 --> 04:19:45,62 a special meeting on the river park master plan and that's going to be at six 2920 04:19:45,63 --> 04:19:51,87 o'clock and and it's something. That's an important meeting to figure out how to 2921 04:19:51,88 --> 04:19:58,88 use bread with Park also the Parks and Recreation Commission Committee which made 2922 04:19:58,89 --> 04:19:59,03 it 2923 04:19:59,38 --> 04:20:05,46 a decision on map of the movie because there's two locations let's say the Film Commission 2924 04:20:05,47 --> 04:20:10,97 is interested in being able to put signage up for different areas in the community 2925 04:20:10,98 --> 04:20:16,13 for movies and we have two in Arcadia and so they were going to be dealing with 2926 04:20:16,14 --> 04:20:21,08 that I did go to I should just say you know you'll think I did nothing I went to 2927 04:20:21,09 --> 04:20:24,53 there what waste management meeting today which was 2928 04:20:24,54 --> 04:20:30,35 a study session to learn more about what they were doing as an alternate and I did 2929 04:20:30,36 --> 04:20:33,24 go to the Arcadia chamber as 2930 04:20:33,25 --> 04:20:40,24 a liaison meeting and right now the other liaison's are Arcadia Main Street the 2931 04:20:40,28 --> 04:20:44,100 visitor and convention bureau are both there and also they would like the Film 2932 04:20:45,04 --> 04:20:50,05 Commission So it's it's really quite large now as far as representation and cross 2933 04:20:50,06 --> 04:20:55,06 information and so one of the thoughts for I did have 2934 04:20:55,07 --> 04:20:58,33 a meeting to for the Humboldt lodge Alliance which has nothing to do with the 2935 04:20:58,34 --> 04:21:03,25 council but one of my thoughts is that the Right now the welcome center is not open 2936 04:21:03,41 --> 04:21:07,30 California welcome centers not open on Sundays and I'm thinking it would be 2937 04:21:07,31 --> 04:21:11,43 a wise thing for the humble lodging alliance to figure out how to keep that 2938 04:21:11,44 --> 04:21:15,71 available and keep it open on Sundays that will probably be right around eight 2939 04:21:15,72 --> 04:21:16,55 thousand dollars 2940 04:21:16,56 --> 04:21:22,19 a year in order to do that so I'm hoping that our money that we have an arcade it 2941 04:21:22,20 --> 04:21:27,01 will go towards that project I just wonder what you know there. And. 2942 04:21:29,72 --> 04:21:33,26 I don't know what else is happening right now so I sat here and went through it 2943 04:21:33,27 --> 04:21:39,58 with Mark and I was. Just. I don't think anyone thinks that 2944 04:21:40,58 --> 04:21:47,46 I can. Meet your definition of 2945 04:21:47,47 --> 04:21:47,94 know through 2946 04:21:47,95 --> 04:21:52,88 a few things here that if the overloaded she was actually on there and about this I 2947 04:21:52,89 --> 04:21:59,89 won't be here at the fourth. Fourth I mean I won't be here either. 2948 04:22:01,13 --> 04:22:06,33 Are you. Going to mention that I didn't have 2949 04:22:06,34 --> 04:22:12,38 a quorum I'll be here in thirty I will too. So to be the guys. 2950 04:22:16,90 --> 04:22:19,04 Realize that we have to have 2951 04:22:19,05 --> 04:22:24,77 a courtroom. In order to proceed. Leaving town. 2952 04:22:28,88 --> 04:22:35,82 OK Thank you. For weeks I attended the eyeball and. 2953 04:22:40,07 --> 04:22:46,85 I don't remember. It was yes Alex was dressed 2954 04:22:47,72 --> 04:22:54,63 like Green Lantern and she chose to deputize me is Kate Oh yeah so that was. 2955 04:22:56,66 --> 04:23:02,91 Green Hornet. Yeah. I think that we got our 2956 04:23:03,21 --> 04:23:09,91 superheroes mixed up. It was the green I know that I was told that that's 2957 04:23:10,32 --> 04:23:12,94 who I was for the evening so I. Had 2958 04:23:12,95 --> 04:23:18,57 a great time and I want to think Kevin who very thin and you know Mark Andre and 2959 04:23:18,81 --> 04:23:21,38 everyone that pulled that together and it was 2960 04:23:21,39 --> 04:23:28,30 a pleasure hearing. Marc Lovelace belt out rock music 2961 04:23:28,79 --> 04:23:32,89 and see him play an electric guitar it was seeing him in 2962 04:23:32,90 --> 04:23:39,43 a different light. Lots of fun I can only imagine what kind of blowout 2963 04:23:39,44 --> 04:23:46,07 party they're going to have next year when Kevin moves on from the I. Attended 2964 04:23:47,08 --> 04:23:52,17 a. Meeting of the humble Waste Management Authority we received 2965 04:23:52,18 --> 04:23:58,30 a report from John shelter formerly of the north coast Resource Center now with his 2966 04:23:58,59 --> 04:24:01,66 new directions program which he's running 2967 04:24:01,67 --> 04:24:07,98 a business and he talked about some of the work he was doing out at the. Marsh and 2968 04:24:07,99 --> 04:24:14,57 some other areas mostly in Eureka and also in Fortuna helping to clean trash and 2969 04:24:14,58 --> 04:24:20,45 recyclables out of those areas so it was an interesting take on. Waste Management 2970 04:24:20,46 --> 04:24:26,10 and waste collection. We recognize. Board member Sherman Shapiro for his years of 2971 04:24:26,11 --> 04:24:27,33 service to H. W. 2972 04:24:27,34 --> 04:24:32,29 May be stepping down from his seat and passing it on to one of his fellow council 2973 04:24:32,30 --> 04:24:38,63 members I believe it. Or Lana. And 2974 04:24:39,21 --> 04:24:40,81 Sherman has been an H.B.O. 2975 04:24:40,82 --> 04:24:44,79 May since it was formed in prior to that he was on each C.W. 2976 04:24:44,80 --> 04:24:49,90 In May The whole county Waste Management Authority so he really was the 2977 04:24:49,91 --> 04:24:55,68 institutional memory there longer than even any staff it served and so he's 2978 04:24:55,69 --> 04:24:59,66 promised to stick around and provide advice but having 2979 04:24:59,67 --> 04:25:06,35 a changing of the guard there and. I see 2980 04:25:06,36 --> 04:25:12,46 Also it may we reviewed our hauling contract with home obey forest products 2981 04:25:13,19 --> 04:25:17,86 and we decided that probably the best thing to do is to can he continue on with 2982 04:25:17,87 --> 04:25:21,96 them for a year well we take 2983 04:25:21,97 --> 04:25:28,66 a look at what kind of volume we have coming out of the landfill because of the 2984 04:25:28,67 --> 04:25:32,54 Phase one closure we've done and so that could stabilize 2985 04:25:32,55 --> 04:25:36,68 a little bit and there are also some changes happening in the I think the 2986 04:25:36,69 --> 04:25:40,38 regulations for the trucks that will be that are used for Leach 2987 04:25:40,39 --> 04:25:46,76 a hauling So at the end of about one year period then we will go out for an 2988 04:25:46,77 --> 04:25:47,62 R.F.P. 2989 04:25:48,18 --> 04:25:55,08 And. Give some other folks an opportunity to. Submit 2990 04:25:55,09 --> 04:26:02,05 proposals for the hauling and. Let's see we also took 2991 04:26:02,06 --> 04:26:07,42 a position in support of statewide plastic bag legislation consistent with 2992 04:26:07,96 --> 04:26:13,19 positions that. We've already taken in the past that legislation is back at the 2993 04:26:13,20 --> 04:26:20,15 state level and then also. I attended. Speaking. 2994 04:26:21,45 --> 04:26:28,41 Alone It's what I spoke at H S U and she's co-founder of the United Farm Workers 2995 04:26:28,42 --> 04:26:35,31 Union and it was just another reminder of all the cool cultural and political and 2996 04:26:35,32 --> 04:26:39,79 economic benefits that H S U brings to the community the multicultural center 2997 04:26:39,80 --> 04:26:45,97 organize that event and she spoke about labor organizing and immigrant rights and I 2998 04:26:45,98 --> 04:26:47,86 stood in line for two hours with 2999 04:26:47,87 --> 04:26:51,69 a bunch of college students to get her autograph and to meet her it was 3000 04:26:52,00 --> 04:26:56,13 a lot of fun so I wanted to thank the multicultural center and humble state for 3001 04:26:56,80 --> 04:27:02,59 bringing her to Humboldt County and then along the same lines since I'm working 3002 04:27:02,60 --> 04:27:07,98 a lot with organized labor these days I went out to an informational picket at St 3003 04:27:07,99 --> 04:27:12,52 Joseph's Hospital with the California Nurses Association and they're really 3004 04:27:12,53 --> 04:27:15,51 concerned about staffing levels they're not 3005 04:27:15,85 --> 04:27:22,41 a even fighting over wages right now they're concerned about workloads and patient 3006 04:27:22,42 --> 04:27:26,36 safety and care because they feel like they're understaffed so there was 3007 04:27:26,37 --> 04:27:29,41 a big rally out there and. That's 3008 04:27:29,42 --> 04:27:36,04 a continuing struggle for them and that's all I got. All right any last minute. 3009 04:27:37,28 --> 04:27:43,06 You know all right so that brings us to dates of future meetings and we have none 3010 04:27:43,07 --> 04:27:48,36 on there although there are always future meetings no closed session or closed 3011 04:27:48,37 --> 04:27:51,00 session report outs so we are adjourned.